FFXI all over again

[BoltNixter]

XI was way way way bett..... yeah you know it !

[Welsper59]

You don't need to, It your opinion and everyone has the right to say what they want.

Very true, although that doesn't mean one can go about saying whatever they want and actually think it's right, at least when expressing these opinions to others. That basically is misleading opinions expressed as facts and often results in things like smearing and propaganda. XI typically gets a bad rap from the general public, but it's safe to assume, based on context clues, that most of these people either never played it or are simply not of the right mind for MMORPGs. Complaining about grinds in an MMORPG, for example, is like saying that FPS games have too much shooting in them. It's part of the genre, and you really shouldn't step away from the formula that brought it to the level of popularity it reached.

Despite saying that, however, I do give the OP credit for acknowledging the misleading statements. That's a clear sign of a sensible individual. He's free to have an opinion about what he likes/dislikes about the game or genre, but like I said, if you're going to use something as an example or evidence of, you need to at least understand it.

[Luciano_Bozzelli]

I use to be one of those guys, that was very critical on FFXIV, and compared my feelings playing it to my 7 year gaming time on FFXI... Then I had to take step back, and give FFXIV the chance that I gave FFXI.

Instead of comparing the two, I had to compare the two before FFXI's first expansion. Which I never really played because when I bought FFXI, Rise of Zilart was out and was established with updates. But doing that digging I found out that in the beginning of FFXI there was no Auction house. At all... Retainers only (or whatever they called that little shop bag by your name), I never knew this, kinda like how a new player would never know that two bee's use to pop on demon wall as you fight him...

If Yoshi P does with the first expansion what Rise of Zilart did with FFXI... Man, its gonna improve drastically, cause with new areas can come new ideas, such as new fates, and if he wanted to add NM's to the fold he can with those new areas. Not to mention the random Primals in the open world that can be captured which should come soon before expansion.

In my opinion, if that first expansion comes with a killer storyline, and when I'm done with the said storyline, I get access to something like Sea, sky, Limbus, Dynamis, anything that I can grind with 40 plus free company members? Then it will just that quickly have turned into one of the best games around. Not to mention if that boss to finish that storyline had players throwing controllers and wishing they had access to ( lets call it Limbo a dream world between worlds where free companies can camp mobs for drops to pop gods?) As in the words of a New Yorker, Oh shit Son!!!

[Eardstapa]

I dunno, even before XI's first expansion there was a large chunk of content, and a good bit of difficult content... For its time. I remember outside of Bastok if you even attempted to go on that hill, you were going to be murdered by goblins solo...

But I digress. XIV is good in its own right, is it as magical as XI felt? No, because I was certainly younger and had much more free time to spare. But these changes are nothing near the levels of XI grinding in its early days.

[Brainberry]

Sounds like another Novus rant, which is 100% optional lol

[Hayward]

I can't go with the premise that XIV is going the same route as XI did. At the very least, XIV is trying to keep the grind from becoming gun-in-mouth tedious. Trials of the Braves, while a grind, is by no means tedious as you're moving to different places and doing different things on your way to completing a book. I'll admit collecting Myth tomes can get boring after a while. The best thing I can say is to not try to get all 1,500 in one day. Get some crafting in, make some gil, keep your Chocobo in shape, help out the beast tribes (even those lovable losers in the 789th Order). Mix up you days in Eorzea and put the blinders away.

[JatohCynn]

Sounds like another Novus rant, which is 100% optional lol

The entirety of the game is optional.

[Dano]

says the game is like FFXI

asks for Notorious monsters....

wut.

[Reynhart]

Just because it's an opinion doesn't make what I said invalid. The game has issues and those issues prevent it from being a good game, just like it's boons prevent it from being a bad game.

Why do people use "that's your opinion!" in an attempt to invalidate arguments that they may not agree with?

I don't try to invalidate your opinion. Just you using the word "definitely".

And, sorry to point it out, but you actually haven't said anything besides "definitely not good" at that time.

[Ryans]

I still don't understand why people think the relic quest line is the only content in the game.