Quote Originally Posted by Nicobo View Post
A lot of people have suggested that turning of the echo by yourself for this situation ^^;
I do turn Echo off, that doesn't mean I'll be able to convince the other 7 players. I'll re-iterate that it's already hard enough to find competent players to clear Coil 2 without trying to set up a PF for non-echo.
Players who are deliberately waiting for nerfs/echo before attempting content should not be encouraged by SE. Why are casuals being catered to but people who are progression minded (not hardcore) are left in the lurch? Is it because casuals make up most of the subscription $$$ proceeds?

I'll leave this thread with some quotes from a casual player from my server on the current state of Coil 2/endgame in ARR:
"the same "glorified content" you ARE working hard on will become laughably easy to farm"
"no one really cares about progression because it's moot in the end, you guys are just grinding vanity items..."