Please move the game away from grind and towards skill

[ToffeeCoffee]

I just hope that when the 3rd Coil is released, and the decision is made to put 2nd Coil into DF with the silly lockout removed, that they do NOT apply the Echo buff to 2nd Coil as soon as they did the last one. Hoping it's not added at all but that's wishful thinking.
There are skilled players who don't have a static group for 2nd Coil, who have a lot of trouble finding competent PUGs to clear for the week, among other factors. Some of those players are arguably more skilled and talented than those who are lucky enough to have a well organised static and easily clear it every week - do not deserve to be insulted with nerfs/echo. Please save the non-Echo party finder suggestion, it's hard enough finding people as it is without filtering down the amount of available competent players even more.

[Nicobo]

I just hope that when the 3rd Coil is released, and the decision is made to put 2nd Coil into DF with the silly lockout removed, that they do NOT apply the Echo buff to 2nd Coil as soon as they did the last one. Hoping it's not added at all but that's wishful thinking.
There are skilled players who don't have a static group for 2nd Coil, who have a lot of trouble finding competent PUGs to clear for the week, among other factors. Some of those players are arguably more skilled and talented than those who are lucky enough to have a well organised static and easily clear it every week - do not deserve to be insulted with nerfs/echo. Please save the non-Echo party finder suggestion, it's hard enough finding people as it is without filtering down the amount of available competent players even more.

A lot of people have suggested that turning of the echo by yourself for this situation ^^;

[ToffeeCoffee]

A lot of people have suggested that turning of the echo by yourself for this situation ^^;

I do turn Echo off, that doesn't mean I'll be able to convince the other 7 players. I'll re-iterate that it's already hard enough to find competent players to clear Coil 2 without trying to set up a PF for non-echo.
Players who are deliberately waiting for nerfs/echo before attempting content should not be encouraged by SE. Why are casuals being catered to but people who are progression minded (not hardcore) are left in the lurch? Is it because casuals make up most of the subscription $$$ proceeds?

I'll leave this thread with some quotes from a casual player from my server on the current state of Coil 2/endgame in ARR:
"the same "glorified content" you ARE working hard on will become laughably easy to farm"
"no one really cares about progression because it's moot in the end, you guys are just grinding vanity items..."

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

I'll leave this thread with some quotes from a casual player from my server on the current state of Coil 2/endgame in ARR:
"the same "glorified content" you ARE working hard on will become laughably easy to farm"
"no one really cares about progression because it's moot in the end, you guys are just grinding vanity items..."

Oh the irony of that statement. Coil 2 weapons are STILL better than the Animus weapons (not sure about Novus, and don't care either. I am quite resolute when I say SE completely turned me off to it the way they addressed the MASSIVE bad reception the Atma grind alone got.) So if anything is a vanity now, it'd be those glowing grind trophies people "worked" so hard for.