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  1. #211
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf_Gang View Post
    This one little adjustment will fix all of BLM single target woes.

    Surecast
    Next spell is cast without interruption from attacks or movement.
    Buff duration: 6s
    Cooldown: 30s
    This wont help decent BLM's at all.

    Movement is not the issue, raw single target dps is.

    Damage during movement heavy fights is one of the things that separates a good BLM from a bad one.
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  2. #212
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    Nyota Sungura
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    What is considered low single target dps? Most groups I've been in who know how to play BLM usually end up around 2nd or 3rd on the list, or under a good MNK. I'm not seeing an issue with that. Most of the time I see more BLM who don't know their rotations(such as f3 > flare at full mp, then stand around for a bit), or lower their dps by waiting to see if FS procs.

    I don't agree that BLM should have equivalent to a good melee(maybe DRG). Though a good SMN and BLM are pretty much very close to each other in terms of average damage. MNKs have to stop dps in order to move out of AOEs and position themselves properly for their full potential, BLMs don't and the only thing they have to worry about it a heavy movement battle, which a good BLM can do well on also. I believe even if they boosted BLM's damage slightly, it probably wouldn't make a difference since a lot of the BLMs I've played with damage isn't really an issue.
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  3. #213
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    Vinroke's Avatar
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    Ellis Slater
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ninjasmine View Post
    What is considered low single target dps? Most groups I've been in who know how to play BLM usually end up around 2nd or 3rd on the list, or under a good MNK. I'm not seeing an issue with that. Most of the time I see more BLM who don't know their rotations(such as f3 > flare at full mp, then stand around for a bit), or lower their dps by waiting to see if FS procs.

    I don't agree that BLM should have equivalent to a good melee(maybe DRG). Though a good SMN and BLM are pretty much very close to each other in terms of average damage. MNKs have to stop dps in order to move out of AOEs and position themselves properly for their full potential, BLMs don't and the only thing they have to worry about it a heavy movement battle, which a good BLM can do well on also. I believe even if they boosted BLM's damage slightly, it probably wouldn't make a difference since a lot of the BLMs I've played with damage isn't really an issue.
    No they are not. Not even close
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  4. #214
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninjasmine View Post
    Though a good SMN and BLM are pretty much very close to each other in terms of average damage.
    This is very very incorrect
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  5. #215
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    Sileas Goode
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    Culinarian Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by Ninjasmine View Post
    Though a good SMN and BLM are pretty much very close to each other in terms of average damage.
    Third time's the charm? My yiwu zen SMN can deal almost equal damage to my weathered laevataeinn BLM on single target dummy without moving and I dont even use smn seriously while I take my blm (which isnt even that good apparently) to coil. That's a 3 weapon magic damage difference right there, by the way.
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  6. #216
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    Zdenka Vaera
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    Goldsmith Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post
    I think mnks need to start complaining thier AOE dmg cannot compare to double or triple flares.

    MNK = GIMP needs major aoe buff NOAW!!!!

    If MNK usings PBAoE and the tank DOES NOT MOVE, its AoE DPS is higher than BLM... it runs out of TP sure, and it can do it only once every 3 minutes sure, but for a single trash pull it can destroy.
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  7. #217
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    ErnestoGiovanni's Avatar
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    Ceropio Malvae
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    Mateus
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    They are gonna Nerf flare so the can boost fire III, keeping the balance.
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  8. #218
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    Alukah Bast
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ErnestoGiovanni View Post
    They are gonna Nerf flare so the can boost fire III, keeping the balance.
    The nerf to flare is pretty much a given

    Black mage is purely meant for DPS, and the focus of the adjustments will be centering around increasing their overall DPS on single targets. However, as they are already very powerful when it comes to AoE DPS, they would become too powerful if we just boosted their single target DPS.
    I wonder how many BLMs would trade off multi-flare power for more single target dmg.
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  9. #219
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    Rosi Posi
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by ErnestoGiovanni View Post
    They are gonna Nerf flare so the can boost fire III, keeping the balance.
    Then I sincerely hope they nerf Holy....a LOT.
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  10. #220
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Dancer Lv 90
    No reason to Nerf Flare, they just need to give us something for movement. I mean even just by turning around (with target locked as well) spell casting gets cancelled.
    I for one think our solo target damage is fair enough as is, i mean really not too far away from other classes. But we for sure no questions need a buff of sorts
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