I don't understand...

[Tiggy]

I never said you were. But we got stuff like "militan casuals" What? They don't want to do speed runs, they can't do speed runs and they are upset about it so they are militant casuals? So stuff like this is clearly irresponsible:



People rage quitting (a.k.a leave) because other can not speed run is elitist. People kicking the lesser geared because they can speed run is elitist. And no one demands that people forever remain silent, just don't go off berating others because they are inexperienced or undergeared.

and for that we are in complete agreement. The problem is you won't even come to a moderate center and agree that it's even possible to help people in a nice way. At all. It's your way or nothing at all. Help people through wiping or shut your mouth. That's all I keep hearing from you.

[Foo01]

and for that we are in complete agreement. The problem is you won't even come to a moderate center and agree that it's even possible to help people in a nice way. At all. It's your way or nothing at all. Help people through wiping or shut your mouth. That's all I keep hearing from you.

How about this?. There exist nice ways to give advice, but it won't work all the time and it will only be received as nice only some of the time. I know of no surefire way to make advice seem nice all the time to everyone. It is a case by case situation. And I will even grant there exist a solution to give advice and it be well received 100% of the time, but no one has found it yet.

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By SV how many dungeons must this tank have done? If they don't have the most basic aspect of being a tank down by that point then I would say giving up tanking is indeed good for everyone. Not everyone is cut out to tank.

Theorectically speaking, if this is someone's alt it could be literally 0. But say they did every dungeon up to SV once, that is like 8 dungeons at most (sastasha, tam-tara, copperbell, halatali, totorak, haukke, brayflox, cutters, and qarn right? I must be missing a few..) So it is no surprise they are as green as they get.

And we all know how people are bored of sastasha, tam-tara, toto-rak on the DR and avoid cutters and qarn, so if it is an alt, it might be like 4 dungeons?