A friendly warning to SE: Do NOT turn FFXIV into an Asia Grinder!

[Lynneth]

There was an MMO that had amazing production values called Star Wars: The Old Republic. Everything was voice acted and it was the most expensive game ever made.

It flopped. Hard. I'd rather SE put their resources towards making the game long lasting than making the non important quests voice acted.

[Sparky]

Do you have anything to back this claim, other than "if they did not like it, they would post here"?



You might have noticed I did not complain about the DoH or DoL class quests. That is because there is production value in them: Nice little cutscenes (although they could do with voice acting...) and I like their storylines, too. Now, compare that to Atma/Animus/Novus, and you might be able to understand what my point is.

They added ATMA so that it would encourage people to run fates in numbers that would be beneficial to people trying to level up alt classes, and even to help newcomers out. I'd rather the grind if it means that the low level content is not significantly dumbed down.

They are not adding these things because they want to be evil to players etc. They do it because they have a vision of what they want the world content to be like for players starting 6 months, 12 months 2 years + down the line. I would assume they want new players to experience this content in more or less the same manner that we all did back in september.

[Felis]

A-friendly-warning-to-OP-Do-NOT-turn-FFXIV-into-something-else-than-a-jp-rpg

In every FF game is also a grind.

[stupiddog]

There was an MMO that had amazing production values called Star Wars: The Old Republic. Everything was voice acted and it was the most expensive game ever made. It flopped. Hard. I'd rather SE put their resources towards making the game long lasting than making the non important quests voice acted.

The dev cost were _one_ of the reasons, but not THE reason. http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertco...or-surrenders/

[Bizniztyme]

Do you have anything to back this claim, other than "if they did not like it, they would post here"?

- More and more players will realize that only the names and Levels of their weapons and bosses change. Chasing numbers is not a long-term motivation.
- When the previous grind content is nerfed two months later (like you do now with the Myths of the current dungeons in relation to the cost of Animus maps), the following will happen:
- a) Wait for a patch, then subscribe for a month
- b) Grind new content
- c) Unsub
- d) Wait two months until next patch
- e) Go to step a).

I'm sure you can back up this claim right?

[Luxx]

They added ATMA so that it would encourage people to run fates in numbers that would be beneficial to people trying to level up alt classes, and even to help newcomers out. I'd rather the grind if it means that the low level content is not significantly dumbed down.

I think this patch now dimmies down the difficulty of FATE's so players are now going to have an easier time to Solo fates.
Towards op: Too late, already crossed that bridge long time ago lol.

[Lynneth]

The dev cost were _one_ of the reasons, but not THE reason. http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertco...or-surrenders/

My point was that amazing production values does not a good MMO make.

[stupiddog]

I'm sure you can back up this claim right?

Last time I looked, an argument in a discussion had to be justified by the proponent, not by trying to turn around the burden of proof.

[GalkaBikini]

The only people who tend to complain or get bored are the ones who play as often as they possibly can, spending upwards of 12 hours EACH DAY in-game. Modern MMOs aren't meant to be played that way and the truth is those types of players are a minority. The majority of an MMOs playerbase does not play the game like that.

[stupiddog]

The only people who tend to complain or get bored are the ones who play as often as they possibly can, spending upwards of 12 hours EACH DAY in-game.

I work full-time and sleep 8 hours a night.