A friendly warning to SE: Do NOT turn FFXIV into an Asia Grinder!

[stupiddog]

there are more players who have no problems with the system and like it.

Do you have anything to back this claim, other than "if they did not like it, they would post here"?

I am tired of seeing people rushing through content and then complain about how bored they are (even when they have 1 level 50 and nothing else levelled, "the game is too boring and there is nothing to do!"). Please...

You might have noticed I did not complain about the DoH or DoL class quests. That is because there is production value in them: Nice little cutscenes (although they could do with voice acting...) and I like their storylines, too. Now, compare that to Atma/Animus/Novus, and you might be able to understand what my point is.

[Sparky]

Do you have anything to back this claim, other than "if they did not like it, they would post here"?



You might have noticed I did not complain about the DoH or DoL class quests. That is because there is production value in them: Nice little cutscenes (although they could do with voice acting...) and I like their storylines, too. Now, compare that to Atma/Animus/Novus, and you might be able to understand what my point is.

They added ATMA so that it would encourage people to run fates in numbers that would be beneficial to people trying to level up alt classes, and even to help newcomers out. I'd rather the grind if it means that the low level content is not significantly dumbed down.

They are not adding these things because they want to be evil to players etc. They do it because they have a vision of what they want the world content to be like for players starting 6 months, 12 months 2 years + down the line. I would assume they want new players to experience this content in more or less the same manner that we all did back in september.

[Luxx]

They added ATMA so that it would encourage people to run fates in numbers that would be beneficial to people trying to level up alt classes, and even to help newcomers out. I'd rather the grind if it means that the low level content is not significantly dumbed down.

I think this patch now dimmies down the difficulty of FATE's so players are now going to have an easier time to Solo fates.
Towards op: Too late, already crossed that bridge long time ago lol.

[Bizniztyme]

Do you have anything to back this claim, other than "if they did not like it, they would post here"?

- More and more players will realize that only the names and Levels of their weapons and bosses change. Chasing numbers is not a long-term motivation.
- When the previous grind content is nerfed two months later (like you do now with the Myths of the current dungeons in relation to the cost of Animus maps), the following will happen:
- a) Wait for a patch, then subscribe for a month
- b) Grind new content
- c) Unsub
- d) Wait two months until next patch
- e) Go to step a).

I'm sure you can back up this claim right?

[stupiddog]

I'm sure you can back up this claim right?

Last time I looked, an argument in a discussion had to be justified by the proponent, not by trying to turn around the burden of proof.

[Codek]

Last time I looked, an argument in a discussion had to be justified by the proponent, not by trying to turn around the burden of proof.

In the real world, very rarely is this ever the case.

Walk into your bosses office with a suggestion and no support and your bound to get laughed it.

[GalkaBikini]

I've found this "grind content" much more enjoyable by simply just not grinding it. I play it as it comes. Sometimes several of my FC members get together to do fates since we're out of FC credits - and the atma just comes. You won't find me grinding Brayflox HM for Myth for the books either - I get Myth everyday just by playing the game, so I'll eventually get my book. Just like when Housing came out, these new Weapons are meant to be a long term goal. There's really no reason to try and get a Novus weapon as quickly as possible - don't forget, there won't be any new weapons for a long time.