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    TheCurls's Avatar
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    Aija Dal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foo01 View Post
    If your advice comes with the same tone as your post, it is no surprise they would snap back at you. Even people that like to learn don't exactly enjoy being taught, especially when they are being stressed or pressured.
    This guy's right. Don't go off on a tirade of various "you suck" insults and call it advice. That's not advice, that's you being a dick. And the most important rule in this game is is don't be a dick.
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    Slatervonjager's Avatar
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    Slater Vonjager
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    or you can just not give advice it's not your place to tell someone to get better.
    You're right and wrong.

    While it's not your place to say "you suck get better", it is your place as a member of this games community to help others improve. Offering advice to assist someone, isn't telling them to get better, just as telling someone to get better isn't assisting them.


    Quote Originally Posted by Foo01 View Post
    If your advice comes with the same tone as your post, it is no surprise they would snap back at you. Even people that like to learn don't exactly enjoy being taught, especially when they are being stressed or pressured.
    This isn't a post about my individual advice giving. This post isn't advice in the first place, this post is a reality check to those that need it(though many wont care or see it). Actual advice should never be accompanied by harsh tones, and anyone giving advice with a dickish tone in game is just being a dick. Also, stating that some people that like to learn don't like being taught makes no sense. Even if you get your information from a book, or by trial and error, you are still being taught, as you are learning from the author, or mechanics in the game are teaching you to react.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCurls View Post
    And the most important rule in this game is is don't be a dick.
    And how many people actually follow that "rule"? Some times is takes being a douche bag, to make other douche bags realize they're causing problems.
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    Doctor Pepper
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slatervonjager View Post
    Some times is takes being a douche bag, to make other douche bags realize they're causing problems.
    Can't really say I agree with this, from my experience if you're being a douche bag to a douche bag then you just have 2 douche bags.

    I agree that sometimes people are dicks in this game but sometimes they just want to genuinely learn on their own. Not everybody is as amped to go watch videos and read articles about how they should play and those people certainly don't want you or anybody else telling them how, that's their choice. If their being a douche bag that's also their choice and that's why we have a kick feature but just because somebody isn't listening to you tell them how to play the game doesn't necessarily make them a douchebag.

    Personally I rush all the new content asap because of this same reason, sure I end up bored a month later but at least I got to experience things before everybody starts telling me how to do them and I get to learn from my own trial and error. On the other hand I try my best not to be rude as well and offer advice whenever I feel it's necessary regardless of whether somebody asks me so I'm a little hypocritical in that sense.
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    Last edited by DoctorPepper; 06-05-2014 at 07:49 AM.