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  1. #11
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    Sapphic's Avatar
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    Ego is the problem.

    You see posts saying that players should help out others who are struggling, but when you try, irregardless of how polite, respectful and tactful you come across in giving advice too many either outright ignore and continue the same or throw back abuse. Then players posting that others should help and wonder why many stopped bothering.

    I asked a geared DRG why he never used Heavy thrust, which he didn't at all, not even once. So was kinda intrigued, he went all caps locks on me. So I gave up. "I JUST DONT!" was his reply.

    So why bother giving advice when more often than not it is ignored or met with aggression?
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    irregardless
    Not. A. Real. Word.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slatervonjager View Post
    Some times is takes being a douche bag, to make other douche bags realize they're causing problems.
    Can't really say I agree with this, from my experience if you're being a douche bag to a douche bag then you just have 2 douche bags.

    I agree that sometimes people are dicks in this game but sometimes they just want to genuinely learn on their own. Not everybody is as amped to go watch videos and read articles about how they should play and those people certainly don't want you or anybody else telling them how, that's their choice. If their being a douche bag that's also their choice and that's why we have a kick feature but just because somebody isn't listening to you tell them how to play the game doesn't necessarily make them a douchebag.

    Personally I rush all the new content asap because of this same reason, sure I end up bored a month later but at least I got to experience things before everybody starts telling me how to do them and I get to learn from my own trial and error. On the other hand I try my best not to be rude as well and offer advice whenever I feel it's necessary regardless of whether somebody asks me so I'm a little hypocritical in that sense.
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    Last edited by DoctorPepper; 06-05-2014 at 07:49 AM.

  4. #14
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    everything is your fault !!! not mine
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    You know i hear shes an actress
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by SavageWolf View Post
    Not. A. Real. Word.
    Not a real sentance.

    Irregardless is a non-standard word.

    Quote from Thesaurus. Adv. 1. irregardless - regardless; a combination of irrespective and regardless sometimes used humorously
    colloquialism - a colloquial expression; characteristic of spoken or written communication that seeks to imitate informal speech

    So, try to educate yourself before going off topic.

    Also to target an irrelevancy to the topic must mean you agree with the rest of what I wrote, as you weren't able to produce any sensible counter-argument
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    Last edited by Sapphic; 06-05-2014 at 08:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SavageWolf View Post
    Not. A. Real. Word.
    "Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that “there is no such word.” There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead."

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless
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    Last edited by AzakaTonnerre; 06-05-2014 at 08:07 AM.

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    I only give advice if someone asks or if I ask them (if they're a fellow bard/class I'm familiar with) if they need some pointers. These people are more willing to listen if you wait until they ask/ask them before shoving it at them. I've yet to have one person react badly when I use this method. I also encourage them when I see them applying it. Some people may see this as coddling, but honestly, you never know what this person's gone through in their day. They could've spent their entire day getting bitched at by their boss at work or yelled at by other players.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diavolo View Post
    I only give advice if someone asks or if I ask them (if they're a fellow bard/class I'm familiar with) if they need some pointers.
    I've given advice to some tanks that had major issues with enmity generation, not aware of the meters that are in game. Using flash as a taunt. Ive taken them through step by step and turned them from struggling to holding mobs with ease. Yet I was never asked. I could have waited and they could hav easily driven them to quitting through frustration.

    If things are obviously not working, why would anyone refuse helpful advice to make things better for everyone, especialy themselves?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    I've given advice to some tanks that had major issues with enmity generation, not aware of the meters that are in game. Using flash as a taunt. Ive taken them through step by step and turned them from struggling to holding mobs with ease. Yet I was never asked. I could have waited and they could hav easily driven them to quitting through frustration.

    If things are obviously not working, why would anyone refuse helpful advice to make things better for everyone, especialy themselves?
    I guess I'm just a southern gentleman that doesn't want to impose myself upon someone. I don't like to come off as that know-it-all asshole that no one really likes. My method works for me. I never said you had to change yours.
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