Gun-blade wielding tank for upcoming job?

[Zophar]

I can really see DRK and SAM splitting off of the same class honestly. It wouldn't be that far of a stretch really. If done right, they could even end up with split roles of one being a DPS and one being a tank. Or not. And I can't see anything aesthetically wrong with it either. Both wear plate. Both use 2 handed swords. The only thing at all that makes me second guess myself on this is that, I'm sure they would want GS and GK type weapons each having their own animations, but again, maybe not. And if you're worried about GK's crossing over, don't worry, Dark Knights were using Great Katanas in Final Fantasy before Samurai ever made it's first appearance in the series

[kujowaltz]

If they add any "gun melee weapon amalgamation" class I'd probably quit. It was bad enough the entire garlean power rangers had gun shields and gun hammers and crap. The last thing we need is players with these failed attempts at weapon engineering.

well if they do, don't let the door hit you on the way out....just kidding lol

In all seriousness though, its a matter of preference and if you don't like the class, don't play it. Saying you'll quit a game because you may find 1 of the many classes stupid is also stupid.

[Kitru]

Los noscea is crawling with pirates and gun wielding, low level enemies. Merlwyb uses a gun.

Where exactly are you seeing this plethora of gun wielding enemies? Virtually all of the low level pirates in LN use axes. I can't think of a single low level enemy that uses a gun. In fact, the only gun using people I can think of are Merlwyb, the thief at the end of the goldsmith quest line, and the first boss of Pharos. Of those, the only "animations" are the 2 gun attacks that the first boss of Pharos uses (the CS animations are ridiculously simply and basically amount to "I stretched my arm out").

Guns are not "common". They're pretty rare, in fact.

Also, the guns that the Eorzeans have are early form blunderbusses and flintlocks. They're the most basic firearms imaginable.

How hard could it be for a black smith to take one of the widely available guns/muskets/etc and attach a blade? Shoot, Garlean gun-blades could just account for a few high level weapons....If Eorzeans can make guns, what's stopping them from attaching a blade?

Gunblades are not simply guns with swords attached to them. They are magitek weapons, which is why they don't need to be reloaded and are exclusive to Garleans.

[whiskeybravo]

Where exactly are you seeing this plethora of gun wielding enemies?

There are those "sniper" enemies in Brayflox HM.. Though, I don't really know if they are using a gun or if it's a crossbow or something. And they aren't exactly "low-level".. Just wanted to throw it out there, not stir the pot (obviously they aren't gunblades) xD

One situation where we might have a gunblade class in the future, similar to Yugiri, deserter from a foreign land. Maybe a Garlean deserter decides to teach Eorzeans the secrets of making magitek gunblades. Kind of a meh idea, since it would be too similar to Yugiri's story, but something to that effect.

[kujowaltz]

Guns are not "common". They're pretty rare, in fact.

So then how are they going to justify getting a gun-class in the first place? It's happening. If freaking goblins can get them.... I'm trying to justify how and why, but you disregard every reasonable idea. What's your possible justification for where these guns will be coming from? If not themselves, or the Garleans, then where? My point is if there are going to be guns, attaching a blade is easy.

Will it be DPS? Maybe its a chemist healer using a gun. Maybe its a gun wielding red mage. Maybe its power rangers. Yoshida said it will not be what people are expecting so I'm coming up with non-obvious solutions. The fact so many people disagree with a gun-blade tank make it even more likely based on stances like yours alone.

[kujowaltz]

Ok lets seperate this.
Lore wise - there are many npc's with guns in los nocea, mentions of pirates, canons...
Enemy wise - low level instances (dungeons and class quest), Brayflox, Garleans.

The 'crawling' was a combination of lore and what we see. We may not fight a ton, but its vastly more than whips, clubs, hammers. Nero uses a hammer but essentially identical warrior models for physical attacks.

What is your ideal scenario for where these guns will be coming from?

[kujowaltz]

One situation where we might have a gunblade class in the future, similar to Yugiri, deserter from a foreign land. Maybe a Garlean deserter decides to teach Eorzeans the secrets of making magitek gunblades. Kind of a meh idea, since it would be too similar to Yugiri's story, but something to that effect.

Yeah that's something I suggested, and I think it could work. There are houses in Mor Dhona that currently cannot be entered but a future guild there would be interesting - occupied by Garlean refugees, teaching adventurers how to wield their weapons, etc like you said. It would require players to have progressed quite far in the game to access however....Yugiri's story and possible inclusion in the dagger job quests could just add to an overall theme for the patch that the jobs are included on. A Garlean/Garlemald theme leading up to the expansion

[JakzChurchill]

Okay if this were to be the case it would be extremely annoying, if gunblades were to be introduced on a class why would you give them to a tank.

Gunblades have the perfect opportunity of creating a class that can opporate from range and melee which will inturn make an interesting dynamic within the skillset by the weapon alone.

For me they can only be introduced via Hybrid roles, where they have the ability to be used from any range to cater to the role they are helping out... or even as corsairs where they buff the people around them allowing the ability to buff healers and melee by changing there attack methods.

I like to think gunblades will go to a hunter class that will inturn seperate to beastmaster and bluemage, as a nice bit of lore could be created with these two jobs being two sides of the same coin.

[kujowaltz]

Okay if this were to be the case it would be extremely annoying, if gunblades were to be introduced on a class why would you give them to a tank...

There is a lot of DPS potential there for sure. Hybrid roles like a DRK that can tank but sacrifices hp/defense for damage output may make an appearance but probably not until the expansion. I think your suggestion of corsair falls too closely with bard IF its concidered a DPS. I could definitely dig a chemist healer, that uses a gun.

As mentioned it could be a kite tank but this would wreak havoc on the DPS of monks/dragoons.

Also remember, as I was reminded, that the type of weapon the class uses stays with that job. A hunter branching into beastmaster and bluemage would require the same weapon. I could see those jobs popping up in the expansion however...would be very cool - another pet based class without the use of summons! job quests could see you fighting and taming various cool monsters.

[kujowaltz]

But as with the Garleans, you can chain close and ranged combos. Swords to push away and guns to chain. It would definitely be easier to pick off an escaping mob! I'm excited to see what crazy gun-wielding class they come up with as if yoshida's comments about it not being what we think