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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitru View Post
    You'd have to explain why, all of the sudden, Garlean magitek weaponry suddenly became as common in Eorzea as axes and spears
    Los noscea is crawling with pirates and gun wielding, low level enemies. Merlwyb uses a gun. How hard could it be for a black smith to take one of the widely available guns/muskets/etc and attach a blade? Shoot, Garlean gun-blades could just account for a few high level weapons....If Eorzeans can make guns, what's stopping them from attaching a blade?

    Your argument about subbing shield lob for a bullet, etc. can just as easily be reversed to say you can just substitute a hammer for an axe, use all the same animations for WAR and boom, new class. What I'm saying is: just as many enemies have skills used by players, there are enemies that have skills and animations players may perhaps use. Combine the gun based animations of limsa pirates, sword based actions of GLD and gun-blade unique skills from garleans and you have a gun-blade class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kujowaltz View Post
    Los noscea is crawling with pirates and gun wielding, low level enemies. Merlwyb uses a gun.
    Where exactly are you seeing this plethora of gun wielding enemies? Virtually all of the low level pirates in LN use axes. I can't think of a single low level enemy that uses a gun. In fact, the only gun using people I can think of are Merlwyb, the thief at the end of the goldsmith quest line, and the first boss of Pharos. Of those, the only "animations" are the 2 gun attacks that the first boss of Pharos uses (the CS animations are ridiculously simply and basically amount to "I stretched my arm out").

    Guns are not "common". They're pretty rare, in fact.

    Also, the guns that the Eorzeans have are early form blunderbusses and flintlocks. They're the most basic firearms imaginable.

    How hard could it be for a black smith to take one of the widely available guns/muskets/etc and attach a blade? Shoot, Garlean gun-blades could just account for a few high level weapons....If Eorzeans can make guns, what's stopping them from attaching a blade?
    Gunblades are not simply guns with swords attached to them. They are magitek weapons, which is why they don't need to be reloaded and are exclusive to Garleans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitru View Post
    Where exactly are you seeing this plethora of gun wielding enemies?
    There are those "sniper" enemies in Brayflox HM.. Though, I don't really know if they are using a gun or if it's a crossbow or something. And they aren't exactly "low-level".. Just wanted to throw it out there, not stir the pot (obviously they aren't gunblades) xD

    One situation where we might have a gunblade class in the future, similar to Yugiri, deserter from a foreign land. Maybe a Garlean deserter decides to teach Eorzeans the secrets of making magitek gunblades. Kind of a meh idea, since it would be too similar to Yugiri's story, but something to that effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    One situation where we might have a gunblade class in the future, similar to Yugiri, deserter from a foreign land. Maybe a Garlean deserter decides to teach Eorzeans the secrets of making magitek gunblades. Kind of a meh idea, since it would be too similar to Yugiri's story, but something to that effect.
    Yeah that's something I suggested, and I think it could work. There are houses in Mor Dhona that currently cannot be entered but a future guild there would be interesting - occupied by Garlean refugees, teaching adventurers how to wield their weapons, etc like you said. It would require players to have progressed quite far in the game to access however....Yugiri's story and possible inclusion in the dagger job quests could just add to an overall theme for the patch that the jobs are included on. A Garlean/Garlemald theme leading up to the expansion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitru View Post
    Guns are not "common". They're pretty rare, in fact.
    So then how are they going to justify getting a gun-class in the first place? It's happening. If freaking goblins can get them.... I'm trying to justify how and why, but you disregard every reasonable idea. What's your possible justification for where these guns will be coming from? If not themselves, or the Garleans, then where? My point is if there are going to be guns, attaching a blade is easy.

    Will it be DPS? Maybe its a chemist healer using a gun. Maybe its a gun wielding red mage. Maybe its power rangers. Yoshida said it will not be what people are expecting so I'm coming up with non-obvious solutions. The fact so many people disagree with a gun-blade tank make it even more likely based on stances like yours alone.
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    Ok lets seperate this.
    Lore wise - there are many npc's with guns in los nocea, mentions of pirates, canons...
    Enemy wise - low level instances (dungeons and class quest), Brayflox, Garleans.

    The 'crawling' was a combination of lore and what we see. We may not fight a ton, but its vastly more than whips, clubs, hammers. Nero uses a hammer but essentially identical warrior models for physical attacks.

    What is your ideal scenario for where these guns will be coming from?
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