duty finder isn't there for you to spirit bond

[alhandra]

i spiritbonded my whole right side and a chest piece yesterday on my warrior, started in DF then finished off with CT while helping out a new FC mate. i even main tanked 2 bosses in my spiritbonding gear. i was able to make tomes for mats to sell(almost enough for one of those 500 myth mats, roughly 100k gil). a few items to turn in for seals for mats to sell(10kish gil) and about 45k gil in materia bonded. quite a profitable run if you ask me.

so ya no wipes, my FC mate got some new gears and i made a crap ton of gil



whats the problem again?

[CrystalRainbow]

Really it's there for anyone that meets' the ilevel requirement.

The only thing you can dictate is premade parties. Anything else you have no say over.

So your rant about how people playing the game how they want is wrong OP.
I personally Spirit bond gear while atma farming. And always do dungeons is my best ilevel gear but still the point is you can't dictate to a random group of people.

[Niota]

I had a Halatali HM, our tank only had his weapon, and like two or three pieces of gear everything else was white 44 gear that wasn't even for tanking. He died on every trash pull because he had no health or stats and once we got to the boss he would refuse to tank it or try and wipe us unless we let him fight it a few times by himself. So I reprted him and was told both his actions and gear could be considered harassment because he wouldn't and couldn't actively participate in a manner that benefited the groups progress in the dungeon

Sorry but I don't consider "not wearing enough gear" harassment. It's downright stupid in that case where the tank is dieing. You ever consider maybe some people can't afford top gear or haven't finished farming myth/tomes/etc ?

[Edeline]

Sorry but I don't consider "not wearing enough gear" harassment. It's downright stupid in that case where the tank is dieing. You ever consider maybe some people can't afford top gear or haven't finished farming myth/tomes/etc ?

That's where Support GMs can take action, investigating the reported player's gear in his/her inventory and storages.

[Marowit]

Sorry but I don't consider "not wearing enough gear" harassment. It's downright stupid in that case where the tank is dieing. You ever consider maybe some people can't afford top gear or haven't finished farming myth/tomes/etc ?

yep cause a guy who has a i110 weapon and chest has absolutely no gear. It was totally a coincidence he had level 44ish white gear and that weapon and chest, it was also totally a coincidence that when i looked him up a day later he had all 100 gear. Even the most undergeared person should never have below the class gear since you get all of it for ya know leveling your class. Anything below that except for the jewelry slots is someone being a tool and someone using crafting gear in their jewelry slots is either a tool or incompetent. There's a huge difference between being undergeared and purposefully wearing gear not even designed for you. And yes "not wearing enough/wearing improper gear" is harassment, hell most things can be considered harassment, but when you make the choice to wear improper gear that makes it so you can't even participate you are harassing every other member in your part because you're making so they can't finish the dungeon they queued into or you're making them carry your ass because you're essentially not even there.

Really it's there for anyone that meets' the ilevel requirement.

The only thing you can dictate is premade parties. Anything else you have no say over.

So your rant about how people playing the game how they want is wrong OP.
I personally Spirit bond gear while atma farming. And always do dungeons is my best ilevel gear but still the point is you can't dictate to a random group of people.

So as long as i meet the requirements you're cool if i go in with all GP and CP gear then and run ahead and agro everything then? Because that's how I want to play and i meet the ilvl requirement. I wont do any damage or be able to take a hit, but hey i met the ilvl so it's all good. What that's not cool? IWell that's what all these tools I've ran in to so far have been doing

[Niwashi]

You've never tried spiritbonding crafting gears by crafting have you? I mean, really have you? >.>;

It takes way too long, and the price of the materias would sky rocket. Gathering has it even worse. I mine all the time, and the gears I've used for months still haven't reached 100%. I don't think it's a good idea, and things, as it is, are fine.

I SB whenever I'm mining something like shards/crystals or carbonized matter that doesn't have a HQ version (and therefore no need to maximize my Perception). It takes a couple hours or so to take a low-mid level item all the way from 0% to 100%. High level items may take longer, but the only people who need high level gathering materia are ones who spend a significant amount of time gathering anyway.

I don't think it would be at all unreasonable to say you can only spiritbond DoL gear by gathering, DoH gear by crafting, and DoW/DoM gear through combat. There is some gear that has both DoL and DoH stats, and that should probably increase its spiritbond through either one. I'm not aware of any gear, however, that combines combat stats with either DoH or DoL stats.

[Welsper59]

i spiritbonded my whole right side and a chest piece yesterday on my warrior, started in DF then finished off with CT while helping out a new FC mate. i even main tanked 2 bosses in my spiritbonding gear. i was able to make tomes for mats to sell(almost enough for one of those 500 myth mats, roughly 100k gil). a few items to turn in for seals for mats to sell(10kish gil) and about 45k gil in materia bonded. quite a profitable run if you ask me.

so ya no wipes, my FC mate got some new gears and i made a crap ton of gil



whats the problem again?

It's such a sad state for humanity when people can't understand circumstance and situation. Not to mention that they can't grasp the idea of how we use one another unfairly. Unless, of course, you do understand that concept and are simply being a troll about the matter, then so be it. As always, the accurate way to go about something is that, unless it was agreed upon beforehand, if you do something that hinders the group (even if it isn't noticeably), it's only fair that EVERY SINGLE PARTY MEMBER can do the same.

This isn't a big deal if it's spiritbonding combat gear related to your stats, that's A-OK within reason (i.e. probably shouldn't be binding i55 gear in Coil). The main problem is doing it with crafting/gathering gear. I really don't think you guys would survive very long, even in CT, if everyone was the same as you. "They shouldn't do it then" is most likely the response to be received, well to that, I ask what gives you the right to do it and not them?

[Sapphic]

Hello,

There are currently no plans to change the method for averaging item levels as the team feels that this is not the real issue.

While in some cases players may be wearing lower level equipment for spiritbonding purposes, we understand that there are cases where players are doing this only to cause trouble for others. We’d like players to report anyone who is behaving inappropriately within dungeons or in general.

Quoted from another post about ilvl.

Wearing crafting gear=intent to cause trouble for others, thus reportable

Kick them, report them. Forget them.

[Giantbane]

I blame SE.

You should create circumstances where people are encouraged to bring their 'A' game when partying with strangers. Having a system in place that directly encourages people to wear crappy gear while partying with others doesn't seem like a good idea.

They should change the spiritbonding system so that it doesn't encourage this behavior, or allow groups to prevent spiritbonding within dungeons entirely if they so choose (perhaps a vote system like the vote abandon).

[alhandra]

Quoted from another post about ilvl.

Wearing crafting gear=intent to cause trouble for others, thus reportable

Kick them, report them. Forget them.

that is absolutely not what that post means. it means that: some people wear lower level gear to spiritbond... there is nothing wrong with that. some people wear lower ilvl gear just to grief (i.e. actual snowman suits and bikini's not glamours) and those people should be reported

that does not mean you are free to report anyone you find spiritbonding gear you dont approve of.

reading comprehension... can i have it?