Current State of End-Game Contents - A Blog Post from A Japanese Player

[Kletian]

I disagree that limited attempt rather than limited successes would be a better time gate- it leads to more frustration and intolerance of people learning.

[Garlyle]

I disagree that limited attempt rather than limited successes would be a better time gate- it leads to more frustration and intolerance of people learning.

This exactly. When I was playing The Secret World, this was one of the biggest s***storms among the community - Nightmare Mode raids had a time lockout, win or lose. So everyone insisted that you have to have cleared before to go with them, and it was nearly impossible for those who hadn't already done it to get a group to even attempt it.

At least here I can create practice groups, or even on occasion jump into farm groups after talking to the PF's leader, who'll usually give me an "Okay, but if you screw up twice you're out." Because they're not risking their entire set of attempts for a day/week or hours of effort to do so.

[Kuwagami]

I disagree that limited attempt rather than limited successes would be a better time gate- it leads to more frustration and intolerance of people learning.

I really do hate to break your bubble, but there is no tolerance for people learning already, unless there are 8/8 people learning.

Remember Leviathan Hard Mode? Me neither. But you'll remember Extreme.

hmmm nope. It's the exact same fight with a grand total one 2 new mechanics :

1) adds
2) heal debuff

new spumes are just new spumes. Same, the rails going out are just a "you'll die" thingie. Nothing new.

On the other side, I'll remember Chimera from Cutter's cry, or Brayflox (story) last boss, or Qarn last boss. They aren't that hard, only a few gimmicks, but they are fun. Fun to learn, fun to fight, not THAT unforgiving (read here, no one-shot mechanics) but if you mess up too much you'll die. And no amount of gear can help you.

All in all, I'd prefer more bosses of this type but with synced ilevel.

Like, T1 would be synced down to i75 max. T5 would be i90 max, and so on (i60 max for Hard DR, 70 max for expert DR....), without so many insta death mechanics. It would be hard, but feasible, and echo would have a meaning

[Garlyle]

On the other side, I'll remember Chimera from Cutter's cry, or Brayflox (story) last boss, or Qarn last boss. They aren't that hard, only a few gimmicks, but they are fun. Fun to learn, fun to fight, not THAT unforgiving (read here, no one-shot mechanics) but if you mess up too much you'll die. And no amount of gear can help you.

All in all, I'd prefer more bosses of this type but with synced ilevel.

Like, T1 would be synced down to i75 max. T5 would be i90 max, and so on (i60 max for Hard DR, 70 max for expert DR....), without so many insta death mechanics. It would be hard, but feasible, and echo would have a meaning

No amount of gear will help you in those because they're literally synced to a cap. (Also Chimera is a one-shot on many characters, unless you're being synced down). With that said, if the tradeoff for loosening up execution is to instead cap our strength going into it? I am super okay with that, and have been requesting an iLvl sync for content for a long time.

What matters most is that I have to actually give a damn about the mechanics. When mechanics are easily outstripped and ignored, then they're forgettable to me. It doesn't work. That's why I'm fine with one shot mechanics - you have to care about them. And right now, in postgame content, without any sort of relevant capability cap on 80% of content, we can just ignore the majority of what's going on around us.