Is anybody else put off my Expert Roulettes...

[JeniLinsky]

Worst of all is when I'm in Paladin mode.. I've had players drag monsters onto me because they want to speedrun

My rule for that situation: You pulled it, you eat it.

[Hik0]

Expert Roulettes?

But yea, it's often a mess. I suppose there is a reason for it being a mess though. It's basically all there is for many people's "endgame". I mostly get people that don't have even a single piece of even the old coil's drops. I really don't understand this. Sure, maybe they don't go pug twintania (which people I know manage to pug this just fine with randoms now), but at least old coil 1-4 shouldn't be a big deal, as I duty finder them all the time on jobs I'm not even good at and faceroll it with people that say "this is my first time, what do I do here?".

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don't you know that you need i70 to enter coil, that you can no longer buy DL, that some players started on ps4 release and are new 50? why should those people stick on "high roulette dungeons" max since Expert is only i55limited, have higher tomestones reward,can drop i70 that help em gear faster for coil?

Haha, your story makes me laugh ... dps kick the tank ... then have no tank and can't finish the dungeon.

I mean it's not funny because you were stuck with them, but that's awesome that the dps hurt themselves by being jerks.

DPS kick the tank=> the party is no longer full=>DPS can leave without the 30min lock out

[SummonerSenah]

I haven't really had any attitude issues doing expert roulette. I just don't like running it because I almost always get Brayflox and it's boring. The rare occasions when I get the other dungeons, people still try to run it like it's Brayflox. Basically I just don't like speedruns at all so I avoid expert roulette and main scenario roulette and by doing that avoid most speedruns.

[Moqi]

I only have issues with brayflox, so much that I have decided to quit if I get it on roulette. Hate to do it, but I am sick of putting up with rude dps. There is no bonus big enough for that.

[Shori]

I run Expert regardless. I do sigh a little inside when the tank does large pulls without consulting the group, but I've only once had a rough enough experience to make people ragequit. I set out my hotbars to cope with either one-target on (1) or many mobs on (2) anyway, even as a monk its doable so long as you have Invigorate to regain some TP.

I'd also like to add I find more elitist /annoying players in the low levels dungeons because a player (usually a sync'd 50) will try to just run past everything and offer no support to the party if someone other than the tank gets aggro'd by nearby mobs.

[Deedsie]

I've seen the Brayflox attitude sprout up on a few tanks even in low level dungeons. Usually it doesn't take them long to figure out it doesn't work there.

[Ihm]

Why is pulling multiple mobs and aoeing them considered such a bad thing? It's more time and damage efficient and really isn't hard to heal through, you hammer 1 button until the enemies are dead...

For that mater, why is doing that considered "speed running". It's not speed running at all, you're just doing the dungeon using aoes. If anything doing single pulls and single target killing should be called ghettoslow running and aoeing dungeons should be the normal.

/rant

[Aldora]

because of people's attitudes?

It seems every time I do them, I have a horrific experience. People are only set on speed running things, and it's just needlessly stressful and unpleasant, because the moment something fails, all they do is yell at each other.

I agree with the bolded part. That's what i hate about Speed Runs. People make these runs needlessly stressful and unpleasant, just to shave off a couple of minutes. And on top of that 99.9% of all the Expert Roulettes i've done since 2.2 was released were Brayflox HM Speed runs. It is getting really old, so i basically queue up for Halatali Hard Mode and the Lost City (with a few friends), just to get a change in scenery every once and a while. Because we do it with friends, we are more in control how many mobs we pull at the same time.

[Kiara1]

The problem is that a lot of ppl at level 50 forget that they're playing a game and it's supposed to be fun, it's not about getting the best gear and then complaining they have nothing to do.
I prefer doing low level roulettes cause newer players are more chatty, they are playing it for fun and I usually have a lot more fun doing dungeons with them than the tank that starts running as soon as everyone's in, not waiting for buffs or anything.

I started doing expert roulette as my ilvl 68 monk, cause that will prevent speedruns. And like the op said, it's stressfull and that's nothing I want when I just get home from work.

Also: Please SE implement a mute button so that I can mute ppl being rude and play without being annoyed by random arguments

[Kiara1]

I mostly get people that don't have even a single piece of even the old coil's drops. I really don't understand this. Sure, maybe they don't go pug twintania (which people I know manage to pug this just fine with randoms now), but at least old coil 1-4 shouldn't be a big deal, as I duty finder them all the time on jobs I'm not even good at and faceroll it with people that say "this is my first time, what do I do here?".

I did coil first when they released it to duty finder. And well.. after about 5 different runs I learned that that is no place for me. if someone made just a single mistake the flmaewar began and ppl left. Once in T1 we didn't even make it to the last boss cause ppl started yelling at eachother and dropped. So I guess most ppl avoid it cause they want to avoid the "endgameplayers". Those who thinks everyone sucks and that they're perfect.
And I guess since expert roulette is one step before coil, it begins there and that's why ppl according to this thread avoid it as well