Question on Scholar's pet

[SeraviEdalborez]

The auto-Embrace HP threshold is certainly not 90%, more along the lines of 75-80% (haven't tested this of late).

80%, plus whatever delay the server/pet AI needs to register "hey, that guy hit 80%, I should do something about it."

For reference, auto-WD is 90%, auto-Covenant is 95%, and auto-Illumination is on cooldown.

[Vena_Sera]

Often in ways that aren't relevant to the situation.

I'm not seeing what isn't relevant in anything that I've said. OP wants to know when to use what faerie a given situation. And whereas selene does give a small dps boost, it is always safer and overall more efficient and both you and your healer's part to use Eos. Go parse yourself doing titan with the same group, at least, 10 times. 5 for eos and 5 for selene and see for yourself how minimal of a difference selene makes in overall dps vs healing throughput. I'll run the tests myself if I really need to.

[rhemi1]

Even if Selene is only a 2-3% raid DPS increase (which I disagree with, the number is probably a larger variable depending on your composition), that's 2-3% more DPS. That's worth a lot more than Eos's AOE healing in certain situations.

Honestly, just use your head and learn to use both, even in the same encounter. I no longer use Eos outside of certain phases in T9 and T8, because the AOE healing brought by her is not at all necessary and the slight DPS increase brings more to the table than unnecessary overhealing.

[Alistaire]

I'm not seeing what isn't relevant in anything that I've said. OP wants to know when to use what faerie a given situation. And whereas selene does give a small dps boost, it is always safer and overall more efficient and both you and your healer's part to use Eos. Go parse yourself doing titan with the same group, at least, 10 times. 5 for eos and 5 for selene and see for yourself how minimal of a difference selene makes in overall dps vs healing throughput. I'll run the tests myself if I really need to.

Parse myself as in see how much I've cured? Sorry but in tons of fights we're not winning by the skin of our teeth in that respect. So my point stands.

[ZaxLavayi]

Even if Selene is only a 2-3% raid DPS increase (which I disagree with, the number is probably a larger variable depending on your composition), that's 2-3% more DPS. That's worth a lot more than Eos's AOE healing in certain situations.

Honestly, just use your head and learn to use both, even in the same encounter. I no longer use Eos outside of certain phases in T9 and T8, because the AOE healing brought by her is not at all necessary and the slight DPS increase brings more to the table than unnecessary overhealing.

You're damn right!

[givemeraptors]

Why don't we just stop bickering about everyone's bad math and say what kind of content you'd use which fairy in:

Coil 1-5: Selene unless solo-healing, or if the party is derpy and/or undergeared.
Primals HM: ditto
All roulettes: again, ditto
Primals EX: Eos, maybe Selene with good party
Coil 6+: ditto

See the pattern? If you're overgeared and/or echo buffed for the event, Selene, if not Eos.

Honestly, even EX primals can easily be done with Selene.

I'm not seeing what isn't relevant in anything that I've said. OP wants to know when to use what faerie a given situation. And whereas selene does give a small dps boost, it is always safer and overall more efficient and both you and your healer's part to use Eos. Go parse yourself doing titan with the same group, at least, 10 times. 5 for eos and 5 for selene and see for yourself how minimal of a difference selene makes in overall dps vs healing throughput. I'll run the tests myself if I really need to.

Healing throughput is not in the slightest way comparable to overall DPS. I hate to break it to you, but if you don't understand that you are a terrible healer. Overhealing is always wasteful. Excess DPS is always useful. You're talking about raising your party's survivability from 95% to 99% That means nothing to me in the face of a DPS increase (however small). And there is no fight that should result in TP starved melee DPS except T8 (from what I'm reading, haven't done it myself).

Honestly, just use your head and learn to use both, even in the same encounter.

This is also totally viable. Doing this is no different than a SMN whipping out Titan when gaolers appear during solo tank/solo heal TEX and resummoning Garuda when they're dead.

[Vena_Sera]

Parse myself as in see how much I've cured? Sorry but in tons of fights we're not winning by the skin of our teeth in that respect. So my point stands.

Do you people even read? Or are you just that good at misinterpretation? I said in my previous post that if you want a dps boost, then go cleric stance and dps. The dps output from you using cleric and doing damage (granted you even know how to do it properly) will do more damage than using selene. Don't believe me? Go parse it.

[Vena_Sera]

Honestly, even EX primals can easily be done with Selene.
Healing throughput is not in the slightest way comparable to overall DPS. I hate to break it to you, but if you don't understand that you are a terrible healer. Overhealing is always wasteful. Excess DPS is always useful. You're talking about raising your party's survivability from 95% to 99% That means nothing to me in the face of a DPS increase (however small). And there is no fight that should result in TP starved melee DPS except T8 (from what I'm reading, haven't done it myself).

Again, what are you reading? Where did I say anything about overhealing?
Even in an encounter where 1 tank is the only one taking damage, regen + (Roused) WD is an OP combo when it comes to keeping your tank up giving you wiggle room for more dps. Which, again, results in higher rDPS. Why is it that Fanservice seems to be the only person here who knows what they're talking about?

[givemeraptors]

Again, what are you reading? Where did I say anything about overhealing?
Even in an encounter where 1 tank is the only one taking damage, regen + (Roused) WD is an OP combo when it comes to keeping your tank up giving you wiggle room for more dps. Which, again, results in higher rDPS. Why is it that Fanservice seems to be the only person here who knows what they're talking about?

And you seem to find it inconceivable that yes, I can stance dance and DPS perfectly fine with Selene. I don't need Eos out to DPS and you're not a bad healer if you do require Eos, but you're also not the best.

[rhemi1]

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You're (mistakenly) believing that you need to use Eos if you want to DPS yourself. You do not. In fact, a lot of that Roused Whispering Dawn is going straight to overhealing at that point, and you'd be wasting it for a time when you might actually NEED that AOE healing.

Scholars need to get the misconception out of their head that they need Eos to DPS. There's no difference between Selene's Embrace and Eos's Embrace in terms of healing potency. Pre-casted Embraces+WHM Regen are enough to keep a tank up through the auto-attacks of most bosses in the game. That 500 HP every 3 seconds from Whispering Dawn doesn't give you as much wiggle room as you think it does.