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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deifact View Post
    Shiva looks bad ass, but the storyline will still be "someone spotted a woman who looks like the primal Shiva! She might freeze us all! Go kill her!" While standing around in Coerthas talking to a random NPC....
    More like, "Go grind her in Duty Finder cause memorizing patterns is all you really need, oh brave adventurer with iLvl way above the needed."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuinn View Post
    More like, "Go grind her in Duty Finder cause memorizing patterns is all you really need, oh brave adventurer with iLvl way above the needed."
    Yes! The Primals are just trash that the civvies get riled up about and the adventurers have fun slapping around.
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deifact View Post
    Yes! The Primals are just trash that the civvies get riled up about and the adventurers have fun slapping around.
    I share the sentiment. Probably cause I'm used to being excited about Summons/Primals/list-of-FF-categorization in other Final Fantasies (except XI, ofc). And there's the whole debacle with Egis looking unimpressive. Yes, I know it's not the actual Primals but still, flashy rave effects should have died with the 90's. That was such a turn-off for me. Wish Carby model would replace all existing Egi ones. Speaking of.... I can't remember when was the last time I saw a Carbuncle, even in the starting areas. Remember the rodent plague in Limsa at launch?
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    While I may be pushing for the egi to be like 1.0's sprites, what we're forgetting here is that there won't be more egi until there's a level cap increase. Remember that we don't have a Leviathan egi quite yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    While I may be pushing for the egi to be like 1.0's sprites, what we're forgetting here is that there won't be more egi until there's a level cap increase. Remember that we don't have a Leviathan egi quite yet.
    Not forgetting it. More like fearing that they'll only raise 10 levels and go "Well, we only needed to add 2 egis this expansion. Kindly wait 1 more year for Shiva and the next cap raise".
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    Why does she have to wear some stupid leotard armor though? Siren, Garuda and now Shiva... yeah, like we need more boobs and/or female crotches...
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  7. #27
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    That's your only problem? The leotard? Believe it or not, that's the most she's been seen wearing since the SNES. Nearly every other incarnation has been a bikini or bodypaint, weird for the queen of ice. Worse for Garuda, in XI she was completely naked. Siren has also been in various states of undress over the games, much moreso than Shiva, though, again, XI's Garuda beat her to the full nudity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    That's your only problem? The leotard? Believe it or not, that's the most she's been seen wearing since the SNES. Nearly every other incarnation has been a bikini or bodypaint, weird for the queen of ice. Worse for Garuda, in XI she was completely naked. Siren has also been in various states of undress over the games, much moreso than Shiva, though, again, XI's Garuda beat her to the full nudity.
    It just seems lazy and limits options:

    Dev 1: "Let's see, what should she wear."
    Dev 2: "Well we gotta see 80% of her tits!"
    Dev 1: "Alright so we'll give her a chest piece that ends above her nipples or a really deep V cut blouse"
    Dev 2: "And like, her butt and stuff!"
    Dev 1: "Sure thing. So our options are a leotard bottom or straight up panties."
    Dev 2: *drool*

    Don't get me wrong, her outfit looks pretty cool even if sheer crotch covers make me uncomfortable because...they just look uncomfortable. That crown looks super awesome, and the cape is fly. But the actual bodypiece just looks recycled from Garuda and Siren. The sex appeal seems more important than actually coming up with something new and awesome and that's why I dislike it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deifact View Post
    I always felt the primals were lacking personality and the story behind them they don't even feel threatening, I think they should have incorporated some big catastrophies into the storyline that the primals cause (bar bahamut). Like with the leviathan storyline you (spoilers) hear that he wiped out a settlement before with a tidal wave but why didn't they include a CG cinematic or something? And when you first see him he just floats away looking so stupid...

    I guess what I'm saying is they don't feel threatening. The "threat" they pose is very "this might happen!" Opposed to "Garuda has appeared and has sent a big ass tornado towards Gridania!" Or something...
    ..
    They absolutely should add cutscenes of the primals devastating power. Show leviathan destroy a village. Show Titan cause an earthquake.
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    The leotard is actually more suggestive than if she was full-on naked (with missing/obscured bits) like she is in other games. Though, she still looks rather threatening and unapproachable rather than seductive, which is good.

    Anyway, her egi form should just be a tiny little snowman with a crown
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