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  1. #11
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    FireHero's Avatar
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    Kane Firehero
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeganLaron View Post
    Sorry to hear about that, unfortunately it happens though.

    Regarding the positioning though, I have always tanked it at the side, as has every other Tank I've been in there with. I'm not saying your way is wrong, but maybe be a bit more open minded about alternative strategies.
    Never said my way was right all am saying look at all the guides they all teach you the same way tank in middle so saying learn the fight is quite funny cause the guides say tank middle he tanked to side that am not bothered about its the fact I was kicked strait after without me saying anything. Now if they had been nice about by saying something like well we find it easy to tank to side then fine but no this is apparently i cant dodge and dont know the fight so i must be kicked at first possible moment without any oh you could have done this or that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireHero View Post
    Never said my way was right all am saying look at all the guides they all teach you the same way tank in middle so saying learn the fight is quite funny cause the guides say tank middle he tanked to side that am not bothered about its the fact I was kicked strait after without me saying anything. Now if they had been nice about by saying something like well we find it easy to tank to side then fine but no this is apparently i cant dodge and dont know the fight so i must be kicked at first possible moment without any oh you could have done this or that.
    And I never said you were wrong. Although considering the overly confrontational nature with which you're responding, I'm guessing maybe you might not have been the innocent little wallflower in all of this that you made out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeganLaron View Post
    And I never said you were wrong. Although considering the overly confrontational nature with which you're responding, I'm guessing maybe you might not have been the innocent little wallflower in all of this that you made out.
    Probably this.

    I don't mind people saying offering help, but its annoying when someone aggressively says "Why aren't you doing this?". There is probably a reason. Either they don't need to, they forgot, or they don't know. Asking "Why aren't you..." makes it sound like the thing they aren't doing is something any idiot should know about. It comes off as if they are stupid or purposely being rude. It reminds me of a joke I heard (forget which stand up it was) but he said it would really annoy him when his wife would ask him why he loaded the dishes into the washer but didn't push the cycle. Paraphrasing his punchline" "I didn't realize or I forgot. Asking me that question implies I'm an a-hole who purposely screwed her over"
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  4. #14
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    Kane Firehero
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeganLaron View Post
    And I never said you were wrong. Although considering the overly confrontational nature with which you're responding, I'm guessing maybe you might not have been the innocent little wallflower in all of this that you made out.
    not sure were am being confrontational since i kind of agreed with you but what ever.
    All am saying is I was kick strait after fight after rude statement of if you cant dodge learn the fight. Also pointing the guides say this way. but they do it this way so how would i learn how to fight it that way if am just getting the strait kick cause i did not do it there way?
    I did not replay to anything they said all i asked as way they did not tank it in the middle, (this before there statement) as its they way i seen it done and the way, also the way I have tanked it over and over.

  5. #15
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    Lita Nambu
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    Reading a guide is nice but if you don't understand the fight it won't help you when things don't go 100% how you want them.
    You should stay near the dragon, on the side or back to avoid the fire breath aoe but towards the center of the arena so you have more time to get behind him when he moves. Don't hesitate using sprint if you think you won't make it behind the boss in time, you don't need your TP as a healer.

    I don't think the kick was justified, but just saying "it was not like in my guide" is not a good argument imo.
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    Last edited by muwa; 05-28-2014 at 08:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireHero View Post
    Even better i reported this abuse to SE they generally mailed me back saying its my fault for not knowing how they were planing to take on the dungeon that its my fault that the 2 people in question abused the vote system to remove me and the healer!
    Yaaaa, I believed your story up until you claimed this bullshit. You are definitely leaving at least one major piece of the story out. Every single time that either myself or one of my friends have reported a player we either got no response or a very nice, kind, and helpful GM asking for further details on the situation. I seriously doubt that anyone working for FF took the time to reply to you as such.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by muwa View Post
    I don't think the kick was justified, but just saying "it was not like in my guide" is not a good argument imo.
    You seem to be confused i never said i would only do it my way, What am saying is most of the guides say do it that way, I asked why they didn't tank it in the middle and there replay was "if you cant dodge learn the fight", Now look for guides on it they mostly say tank it in the middle, Now and no point did I say that it is the best and only way. But when i ask why and get the rude replay and then right after fight get kicked how can i understand why they do it that way or were I should be standing or anything.

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    Player TeganLaron's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandudez View Post
    Yaaaa, I believed your story up until you claimed this bullshit. You are definitely leaving at least one major piece of the story out. Every single time that either myself or one of my friends have reported a player we either got no response or a very nice, kind, and helpful GM asking for further details on the situation. I seriously doubt that anyone working for FF took the time to reply to you as such.
    I have to say although 99% of the time they have been pleasant and helpful, I came across an incredibly rude and nasty GM myself before, so I can actually believe that part.

    Quote Originally Posted by FireHero View Post
    You seem to be confused i never said i would only do it my way, What am saying is most of the guides say do it that way, I asked why they didn't tank it in the middle and there replay was "if you cant dodge learn the fight", Now look for guides on it they mostly say tank it in the middle, Now and no point did I say that it is the best and only way. But when i ask why and get the rude replay and then right after fight get kicked how can i understand why they do it that way or were I should be standing or anything.
    I've had a look at some guides out of general interest because of how insistent you're being about this, and they really don't say that at all. I read four separate guides and not one said you have to tank it in the middle. They didn't say you can't, but all they said is what others here have already said, stay behind the boss for swinge.

    The fact is, you got kicked. Most likely for no reason, or minimal at best. Yes it sucked. Yes we gave you sympathy. But there's really nowhere else for this thread to go.
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    Last edited by TeganLaron; 05-28-2014 at 08:38 AM.

  9. #19
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    I really wish people would post screenshots when they come to the forums with these types of complaints. Presenting only one (very biased) side of something is useless and helps no one.

    Anyway, it doesn't matter where you tank him. If he turns to anybody but the tank, either: 1) The tank needs to get better, or 2) He is about to Swinge, and you simply move behind him.
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  10. #20
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    Kane Firehero
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeganLaron View Post
    The fact is, you got kicked. Most likely for no reason, or minimal at best. Yes it sucked. Yes we gave you sympathy. But there's really nowhere else for this thread to go.
    Well actually Sympathy could not care less the hole who's way was right or wrong is not even the issue as the tank proved he could not care less about the way i normally do it and because it was wrong in his eyes.
    What I kinda started this thread for as should be easy to know from the name is this kind of vote kick is wrong and why is it aloud?
    don't remember all the options for it only had to kick someone once cause they went offline we kept going but it got to the point were we could wait no longer
    Kick choices - harassment, offline, AFK cant renmber the last one but am surre its note vote kick people i dont like

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