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  1. #121
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    Zhi's Avatar
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    Zhi Azraelia
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    Adamantoise
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Erudain View Post
    White Mage: "Hey PLD, please don't overwrite my stoneskin with yours" <---- insightful advice since PLD might not know/forgot White Mage gets a passive buff. Recognizable at the moment or after a few hits on your stoneskin.
    Wasted effort you can't override a stronger ss with a weaker one
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  2. #122
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    Spyrit Moon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhi View Post
    Wasted effort you can't override a stronger ss with a weaker one
    Hmm I thought stoneskin couldn't be overridden at all, at least in ffxi it was like that, same with paralyze, some spells you have to wait til they are gone before using them.
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  3. #123
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    Try it yourself, if the shield is weaker or damaged it applies a new one , if it is stronger you get no effect, if equivalent it refreshes
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  4. #124
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    Gaddes Ronfaure
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyrit View Post
    Hmm I thought stoneskin couldn't be overridden at all, at least in ffxi it was like that, same with paralyze, some spells you have to wait til they are gone before using them.
    You can override it if it's a ss of the same strength, but other people can't override a whm's ss... I noticed that firsthand as a sch when both the whm and I would be ss'ing a tank.
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    "Well, it's no Vana'diel, but it'll have to do..."


  5. #125
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    Eros Maxima
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    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 60
    Some things for everyone, regardless of side, to consider:

    "Advised"
    - Are you irrationally concluding that anyone helping/questioning you by asking something like "do you know your rotation?" to mean "you suck"? Calm down, not everyone is out to get you.
    - Is your current method of play noticeably impacting the group? e.g. group is wiping, you keep dying, things are taking twice as long to clear, etc. It might be time to suck up your pride and try to be a team player by simply listening to your groups advice or instruction.

    Adviser
    - Is your line of questioning/advising demeaning or stuck up? "I do <X content>, so I know what I'm talking about", "I have a lv50", or "l2p your ****ing job" is not supportive of any rational argument and simply looks like you're stroking an e-peen. Regardless of being right with the advice, no one likes to talk to snobs. It's a video game, so calm down and don't be an ***.
    - Is your advice really needed? i.e. Are you just being an impatient *****? Just because a run takes a minute longer, it doesn't mean the end of the world. Just because you wipe once, it doesn't mean the game or player base is a total failure. Calm down.
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  6. #126
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    Yurika Huin
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    Fisher Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Killance View Post
    I REALLY hate running into these types of players, typically raiders(not all raiders of course).
    As someone on the other side, I will never hesitate to tell a white mage to STOP using fluid aura.
    Just because someone tells you how to play your class - doesn't mean they don't know how to play it. By now a lot of people have leveled up most of their classes and have experience playing most of them enough to try to give advice. If they're being rude and deconstructive, that's another story...but if someone is seeing someone completely doing bad as their class, I think offering CONSTRUCTIVE criticism is always a plus.
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  7. #127
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    Tegan Laron
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nukocafe View Post
    As someone on the other side, I will never hesitate to tell a white mage to STOP using fluid aura.
    Just because someone tells you how to play your class - doesn't mean they don't know how to play it. By now a lot of people have leveled up most of their classes and have experience playing most of them enough to try to give advice. If they're being rude and deconstructive, that's another story...but if someone is seeing someone completely doing bad as their class, I think offering CONSTRUCTIVE criticism is always a plus.
    That's a little narrow minded and unwilling to learn in itself as there are plenty of situations where Fluid Aura is very useful. And I'm not just talking about simple knockbacks in a dungeon, I'm talking about saving an entire run in Leviathan Extreme with a Fluid Aura to the add because the DPS didn't get it down quick enough.
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  8. #128
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    Elim Lovecraft
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeganLaron View Post
    because the DPS didn't get it down quick enough.
    That shouldn't be an issue in the first place. A good group wont need a WHM to fluid aura.
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  9. #129
    Player TeganLaron's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elim View Post
    That shouldn't be an issue in the first place. A good group wont need a WHM to fluid aura.
    True, but not every group is a good group is it? That's like saying why have Benediction or Hallowed Ground, a Tank's HP should never be low enough for either to be needed.
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  10. #130
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    Elim Lovecraft
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    To add onto my other post, I've also managed to heal through adds exploding in bad PuGs. The group wouldn't necessarily wipe without fluid aura. It's really unnecessary.
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