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  1. #71
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    Odett's Avatar
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    Odett Telos
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    If anyone offers you advice, the last thing you should do is ignore it. There are way too many people in this game that become very rude when corrected on their rotation, and I really don't know why. I guess maybe these players think that others are policing them or constantly watching them, but these are things you just notice by default out of having correctly played their class yourself. In a 4 person dungeon, it is also incredibly easy to tell when someone isn't pulling their weight. It's nice if someone that gives you advice does it in a polite way, but even if they're rude (I'm not condoning being rude), the corrections they give you do not lose their credibility, and you should incorporate them in your play style. The learning process never ends, and like SarcasmMisser said, the moment you think you know everything is when you stop getting better (and you can ALWAYS get better).

    The "don't tell me how to play" and "this isn't hardcore endgame" responses are very problematic because preparation for the hardest fights in the game start at level 1. Good players don't have an on and off switch, they play their best all the time because once you get used to it, it becomes second nature, and if everyone always pushed their class to the best of their abilities, the game would be much more enjoyable. I think that a reason why so many players don't try so hard is because of this game's difficulty curve. Getting to level 50 is a joke, FATEs teach you nothing about your class, and many endgame fights are too easy, so maybe some players shrug off constructive criticism because as long as you win, it doesn't matter to them, but once they hit Titan EX and T5, things get real.

    I feel like I may have gone a little off-topic there, but if someone offers you advice, please take it. Playing your best and finding a purpose for all your skills may seem like a drag at first, but it becomes effortless very fast.
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    Last edited by Odett; 05-27-2014 at 09:25 AM.

  2. #72
    Player Killance's Avatar
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    Thibarlyon Killance
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser View Post
    Captain caps lock just confirmed my suspicion about his attitude irt criticism. Grow thicker skin, life is learning.
    Well now, I know what kind of person you are. On ignore now, enjoy!
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  3. #73
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    Meridia Astra
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Killance View Post
    Please quote me on "I know everything about my class". I'll wait, though I think i'll be waiting forever SINCE I NEVER SAID THAT!
    Quote Originally Posted by Killance View Post
    I'm positive that it doesn't "suck". And there is no reason to look at it.
    I think this is what Sarcasm is referring to. If you think your rotation is fine, I'm not going to say you're wrong. If you feel you are pulling your weight, that's subjective for the most part. You've already said you don't care about being the best, and that's your right. I think the gist some people are trying to get at is, if the advice is sound and not delivered in a condescending way, what harm is it in at least entertaining the thought? If you have done the research you say you have (and I can't say whether you have or not), perhaps it is YOU who could have been providing advice to THEM since they approached the subject in the first place.
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    Last edited by Menriq; 05-27-2014 at 09:27 AM.

  4. #74
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    Thibarlyon Killance
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser View Post
    Captain caps lock just confirmed my suspicion about his attitude irt criticism. Grow thicker skin, life is learning.
    Quote Originally Posted by Menriq View Post
    I think this is what Sarcasm is referring to.
    I'm sorry, understanding Sarcasm on the internet is hard if not impossible since you can't detect it through written sentences UNLESS it's put in special font.

    Edit: On a note to everyone else, opening thread was on the tone the person was using. For the love of god, stop saying I deny info on my class. I deny it when you throw it in my face using obnoxious phrases and don't let it go.
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    Last edited by Killance; 05-27-2014 at 09:27 AM.

  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killance View Post
    I'm sorry, understanding Sarcasm on the internet is hard if not impossible since you can't detect it through written sentences UNLESS it's put in special font.

    Edit: On a note to everyone else, opening thread was on the tone the person was using. For the love of god, stop saying I deny info on my class. I deny it when you throw it in my face using obnoxious phrases.
    No, I mean his name is Sarcasm, not that he was being sarcastic.
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  6. #76
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    Captnyan Meowpants
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    So he ignores criticism? Sounds really insecure, I have doubts that you are decent at your job at all when that is your reaction and you should treat every piece of advice as a precious chance.

    Reminds me of my old raid leader, garbage player who flew into tantrums at every chance he had to learn from better players.
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  7. #77
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    Odett Telos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killance View Post
    I'm sorry, understanding Sarcasm on the internet is hard if not impossible since you can't detect it through written sentences UNLESS it's put in special font.

    Edit: On a note to everyone else, opening thread was on the tone the person was using. For the love of god, stop saying I deny info on my class. I deny it when you throw it in my face using obnoxious phrases and don't let it go.
    But what if they DO offer you useful info? Maybe they're rude about it, and that behavior should never be encouraged, but will you throw out what they gave you advice on even if it could help you play your job more effectively?
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  8. #78
    Player Killance's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odett View Post
    But what if they DO offer you useful info? Maybe they're rude about it, and that behavior should never be encouraged, but will you throw out what they gave you advice on even if it could help you play your job more effectively?
    Spamming me, insulting me, not letting it go. You will be on my blocklist regardless of what you have to say.
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  9. #79
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    Odett Telos
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Killance View Post
    Spamming me, insulting me, not letting it go. You will be on my blocklist regardless of what you have to say.

    If someone keeps spamming or not letting go of the information they're trying to tell you, then maybe you should seriously reconsider what you're currently (or what you're not) doing. If someone is being rude to you, by all means, blacklist them, but outright refusing to take advantage of a chance to play more effectively is what will keep you from bettering yourself and being a better asset to your party members.
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    Last edited by Odett; 05-27-2014 at 09:53 AM.

  10. #80
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    Ulath Skullsplitter
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    Hyperion
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    "Correct a fool and he will hate you. Correct a wise man and he will appreciate you."
    -from a random facebook post
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