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  1. #41
    Player
    Hyperia's Avatar
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Eggnook24 View Post
    If drop rates were as plentiful as ATMA complaint threads, we'd all have them. Please, this has been done to death. Grind or move on, it's a choice, not even necessary for end game, it's basically just epeen glamour and a promise of better upgrades later, but later, eel have better dungeon drops. So again, pointless.
    SE screwed up big time on this one and we need to hold their feet to the flames so they remember to not do this again.
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  2. #42
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    Nico Nico
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    Goblin
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by sonicnknuckels View Post
    Ive been trying to get them and hearing about people spending days grinding and only having 2. I think you should fix the drop rate because the 1500 myth per book is already enough of a grind :<

    1500myth is extremely easy compare with 12 ATMA grind!!
    I have started to grind ATMA again, OMG was I cursed ?? I don't feel it is RNG.
    It works like math, and by some reason, (maybe player name is a factor)someone will have less chance to get a drop.

    SE please fix it! It is extremely tedious and dispressing to grind ATMA just bcoz you have much lower drop rate than other randomly.
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  3. #43
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    EinherjarLucian's Avatar
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    Chalyss Hearthglenne
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised if some complaining are those who paid merc groups to get their relic in the first place. Now they have to put some time into acquiring it and not just throwing gil at others to do it for them, they don't like it XD

    Some is not all before any jump to that conclusion.
    It really comes down to two things:
    1) Beating your head on actual challenging content is fun. Trying to beat Titan HM, the EX content, BCoB... That is fun.
    2) Beating your head on low-level FATE content and the RNG is NOT challenging and NOT fun. Not even sure how it's remotely supposed to be fun.

    All the steps of gearing up for your Relic and Zenith were fun. You had challenges and a bit of grinding, but it all fit smoothly together, and flowed well, with a good story to boot.

    Obtaining your Atma weapon is the exact polar opposite of that. Running around from spot to spot on the map, fighting under-leveled content over and over and over again for no reward other than maybe you hit the magic RNG win? How is that fun? Why should improving your character not be fun? I can't even use FATE grinding for Atmas as a means to also level my lower-level classes, because you must have your Zenith weapon equipped. There's no benefit other than maybe a couple dozen seals per attempt and maybe some Exp for your companion if you remember to have it out.

    How is it challenging? How is it work? Work is trying to learn a fight. Work is getting teamwork down to defeat a hard boss fight. Work is not running to a FATE and mashing 1 and 2 until you win. That's tedium. Time does not equal work.
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    Last edited by EinherjarLucian; 05-26-2014 at 04:00 PM. Reason: Adding rest of the post

  4. #44
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    Thera Logo
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    Sargatanas
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    Lancer Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Nicobo View Post
    Seriously this suggestion is not helpful as Animus will keep upgrading in the future while others weapons will be outdated.
    Eventually every players have to do this quest so regardless the reward, I think everyone should do it.
    And it seems YoishiP has agreed with it otherwise he would not delay next upgrade.
    It will always be second best.
    So remember that, while your farming.
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  5. #45
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    Nico Nico
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    Goblin
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Logo View Post
    It will always be second best.
    So remember that, while your farming.
    Also remember that an achievement is unlocked while an animus is obtained ^^;
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  6. #46
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    Azul Earendil
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    Shiva
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    You talking bout this one?
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    Never a mind was changed on an internet board, no matter how good your arguments are...

  7. #47
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    Nico Nico
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    Quote Originally Posted by wicked-one View Post
    You talking bout this one?
    yes, congrats^^
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  8. #48
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    Azul Earendil
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicobo View Post
    yes, congrats^^
    Thanks, fortunately there is no achievment for getting 9 Animus, ´cause this i would never get in my lifetime xD
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    Never a mind was changed on an internet board, no matter how good your arguments are...

  9. #49
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    Nico Nico
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by wicked-one View Post
    Thanks, fortunately there is no achievment for getting 9 Animus, ´cause this i would never get in my lifetime xD
    yeah, I thought the same! XD
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  10. #50
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    Hyperion
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    Armorer Lv 80
    Thankfully, according to the last conference event yoshida did pre live letter, they are considering an award for having all Novus weapons.

    I hope they reward a barding made up of all the weapons welded together, kind of like the sword throne in Game of Thrones, lol...
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    Last edited by Duuude007; 05-26-2014 at 06:37 PM.

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