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  1. #101
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    MogBeatr's Avatar
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    Calvin Knutbruiser
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    Cerberus
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    My interpretation is that Yoshi-P will give them a Hildebrand mount to maintain the loldrg stereotype.
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  2. #102
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    Duelle's Avatar
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Diabolos
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by aray0002 View Post
    why does everyone think it to be a minion ? To make a Wyvern / Mount for DRG is way cooler and more practical since it's job specific related. Just like the War Bear for Warrior , and Lion for PLD , Unicorn for Whm. Wyvern / DRG just seems to fit dontcha think ?
    Except Dragoons kill dragons in FFXIV. You give a DRG access to a dragon, the dragon will look like swiss cheese within minutes. You can't make a job go against its own nature and concept.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

  3. #103
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    Kio's Avatar
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    Kio Solais
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    Hyperion
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    Culinarian Lv 90
    I'm hoping it's a pet for a future pet class and not a minion. Minions are cute and all but I want to have a deeper relationship with my wyvern as a companion and battle partner. That is what I miss most about it.
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  4. #104
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    Swagcity's Avatar
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    Swag Zilla
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    Malboro
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    Marauder Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by Kio View Post
    I'm hoping it's a pet for a future pet class and not a minion. Minions are cute and all but I want to have a deeper relationship with my wyvern as a companion and battle partner. That is what I miss most about it.
    A dragon/wyvern pet class; would be pretty neat. Dragoons are thought to be dragon killers in XIV; could be an interesting storyline between a dragon pet class/dragoons (Not saying a dragon pet class will be released).

    Wonder if they have any plans of the implementation of another pet job class? Perhaps the dd master/pet mechanics of XI will be no more; due to the dodging of attacks and whatnot.
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    Last edited by Swagcity; 05-26-2014 at 07:16 AM.

  5. #105
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    Gormogon's Avatar
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    Gormogon Maxwell
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    Faerie
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    Except Dragoons kill dragons...
    So let me get the straight the issue is that you and others believe that "pet" only refers to friendship and loyalty?

    I never considered my pet in FFXI to be a friend. I only ever considered it a tool for me use so that it can boosts my DPS. I never felt sad nor the need to appreciate my Wyvern when I used spirit surge in FFXI.

    When I send my Chocobo or Egi to attack it never crosses my mind, "I'll keep you alive Titan Egi" or "Thank you for healing me my friendly Chocobo healer".

    I'd rather Dragoons get Wyverns so that it becomes more visually appealing job. Which if FFXIV ever does implement it and it does include the ability Spirit Surge from FFXI. That only means that jumps can get a reset button so that you can do even more jumps.
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    Last edited by Gormogon; 05-26-2014 at 07:14 AM.

  6. #106
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    So you have no issue micromanaging dots and buffs but a big issue micromanaging an extension of your dps that on average you don't even need to give the time of day? Hilarious.
    But we don't micromanage DoTs and buffs. Because of the DRG combo system, it's very hard to miss when to put those up--they flow into each other. Telling your pet to move out of cleaves because it was originally closer to the side and now the tank has turned the boss 30 degrees to avoid killing a real party member while Heavy Thrust is coming up... is very annoying. Either it needs decent AI, rather than 'stand in fire while Windblading incessantly', or it probably needs to not work like a real pet (conditional health bar, or the ability to sacrifice auto-attacks to start flying, where it can still breath fire or dive, etc.). I agree, as in your other post, that it wouldn't be an issue if you didn't have to give your Wyvern 'so much as the time of day'. But I apply this only to movement mechanics--i.e. not babysitting your pet. If the pet is equally undirectable or uninvesting in terms of what I can use it for (a single jump-refresh ability does not shout *wyvern* to me), I personally don't want more white damage, and would be happier having such an ability on the Dragoon itself so I don't have wings beating in my face and obscuring my view all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    So let me get the straight the issue is that you and others believe that "pet" only refers to friendship and loyalty?
    On that note Estinien's relationship (1.1 version, not ARR) with his wyrm is fairly interesting. It's a friendly relationship, exactly, but they have strong ties. ARR has since taken an even more anti-Dragon turn though.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 05-26-2014 at 08:18 AM.

  7. #107
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    Gormogon's Avatar
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    Gormogon Maxwell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
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    You don't have to tell your pet anything and baby sit it. Regardless this isn't FFXI even ifrit, garuda, eos, and selene can take a beating. No reason why the wyvern pet wont be able to either.
    If you think wyvern can only bring white damage and a refresh then you neglect everything FFTA and FFXI has had to offer.
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  8. #108
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    Ikeda's Avatar
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    Ikeda Komori
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    Except Dragoons kill dragons in FFXIV. You give a DRG access to a dragon, the dragon will look like swiss cheese within minutes. You can't make a job go against its own nature and concept.
    Dragoons killed dragons in FFXI too and yet that didn't stop them from getting a wyvern pet. One of their freaking traits was called dragon killer that made dragons get "intimidated" (sort of a random small stun effect) by just having dragoons fight them. Knowing how the game worked the hidden piercing type damage of the lances probably did more damage to dragons too. In FFXI there were good and evil dragons. Just because we haven't seen good dragons in FFXIV yet doesn't mean they're evil by default. Also you need to be corrected. Ishgardians and their dragoons kill dragons. Freelance adventurers that take on the role of dragoon aren't necessarily required to kill dragons if anything the only dragon the story of dragoon has really said you need to kill is Nidhogg.
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  9. #109
    Player HeroSamson's Avatar
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    Zanon Reeves
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    Cactuar
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    I would like Wyvern but, I think maybe when the game evolves a little further.
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  10. #110
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    You don't have to tell your pet anything and baby sit it. Regardless this isn't FFXI even ifrit, garuda, eos, and selene can take a beating. No reason why the wyvern pet wont be able to either.
    If you think wyvern can only bring white damage and a refresh then you neglect everything FFTA and FFXI has had to offer.
    I realize that it granted DRG much to offer in both party support roles and complementary soloing potential, but I doubt FFXIV would allow either characteristic to be added to its mobility and burst in any nearby levels. The only job that has come close to being that multifarious was already nerfed for that exact reason. Compared to (especially multiple expansions of) FFXI, FFXIV jobs are much more hard-boiled, and more widespread abilities such as silences and cleanses are much more job-reserved. I would expect that you would see only the dps use and a little complementary personal support from Wyverns within the next couple expansions, if not ever. That and the "don't need to give the time of day" comment are why I considered only white dps and the ability you explicitly mentioned wanting...
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