Please give archer a dagger.

[Wynn]

not once do I claim to be an "expert"

Nor is anyone saying mobs don't get close to archers for that matter. It happens. However, archers specifically have tools to mitigate that and people should be using them instead of worrying about archer melee. That isn't where the archer's strength is going to be.

What does a mage do when mobs get up close? Same thing. They bind or otherwise neutralize the threat and then nuke from a safe distance. They aren't going to sit there and beat on it with their staff.

[Skeloton]

Nor is anyone saying mobs don't get close to archers for that matter. It happens. However, archers specifically have tools to mitigate that and people should be using them instead of worrying about archer melee. That isn't where the archer's strength is going to be.

What does a mage do when mobs get up close? Same thing. They bind or otherwise neutralize the threat and then nuke from a safe distance. They aren't going to sit there and beat on it with their staff.

In leve-parties I rarely get mobbed unless I was the one to start the leve for some reason. As ARC in parties I make sure I got Out of Sight, chameleon and quelling strike, after all that I just spam Multishots.

[Wynn]

In leve-parties I rarely get mobbed unless I was the one to start the leve for some reason. As ARC in parties I make sure I got Out of Sight, chameleon and quelling strike, after all that I just spam Multishots.

Yep exactly this. Even then sometimes the archer will draw hate, most of the time due to buffs which have an insane hate generation for some reason. But as long as the archer is using the abilities you mentioned, and not spamming too much, the hate is short lived.

[Zanfire]

not once do I claim to be an "expert"

when you say "If your close enough to B****slap your foe...your doing it wrong." it sounds like you must be some master at it. Its not like you said fi ones stays on you too long, or if your getting attacked too much up close, you not doing it right, you made it seem liek if they get close enough to hit you, you cant play the job...which is why i said what i did.

[Skeloton]

when you say "If your close enough to B****slap your foe...your doing it wrong." it sounds like you must be some master at it. Its not like you said fi ones stays on you too long, or if your getting attacked too much up close, you not doing it right, you made it seem liek if they get close enough to hit you, you cant play the job...which is why i said what i did.

and when I said "If your close enough to B****slap your foe...your doing it wrong." I was saying it for humorous effect. Sadly not everyone will ever understand British Humour.

[Eagle7D8]

Hey guys! We asked Matsui about adding daggers for archers to use when fighting close range. He replied:



You are just going to have to learn how to strike first, strike hard, and give no mercy.

I love The Karate Kid reference of this. lol

[Defmetal]

Couldn't this be resolved by changing it to a Primary and Secondary weapon set for each class? Like you know, whats there now, but add in Offhand Daggers:

Gladiator equips Sword and Shield
Archer equips Bow and Dagger and Arrows go in Range slot - Dagger not main hand equipable and use shield slot.

This would open the possibility for Gladiator to use an Offhand dagger, while giving Archers the ability to use a weapon in close range.

[Sypherblade]

how about.... a pet or something that can taunt the mobs off you

having the pet out would give you a penalty to stats...attack or what ever... so it would only be useful for solo play and not group activities.

pet could not be target of cure spells so it cant be abused as a tank in a group situation either.

wolf or something.

just an idea since the real problem is solo play and keeping the mob at a distance right? not how pretty you look at close combat?

[Dreamer]

how about.... a pet or something that can taunt the mobs off you

having the pet out would give you a penalty to stats...attack or what ever... so it would only be useful for solo play and not group activities.

pet could not be target of cure spells so it cant be abused as a tank in a group situation either.

wolf or something.

just an idea since the real problem is solo play and keeping the mob at a distance right? not how pretty you look at close combat?

No. Beastmaster and Summoner are separate classes.

[Sypherblade]

No. Beastmaster and Summoner are separate classes.

could just give beastmaster and summoner totally different mechanics...like abilities and multiple pet choices...

archer can just have a simple "call wolf" that has no special abilites what so ever...just auto attack and taunt

*shrug* idk lol