Leviathan FC Progression Thread V4

[DreXxiN]

This is just a power play to make yourself and the other FC's look better.

Incorrect. I did not make this decision myself, and as I said, I'm sticking to original tradition. Most server threads have FC only and Sevyn intended it to be that way as well (though he couldn't monitor it as much as time went on.)

I had no individual bias in the decision making and let those I've talked to help me come to a decision to keep it the way it was before.

There's a pretty large amount of outside effort ignored when a Linkshell clears over a Free Company, including pre-raid gathering / crafting of consumables as well as having more to give up.

Most noteably, anyone can gather the top 2 of 4 different guilds and clear. Does that discredit the clear? Absolutely not, it still shows incredibly strong play. However, you don't give anything up by committing to a Linkshell like you do to a Free Company, as you can be in 8 of them.

Linkshells in this game are glorified chat rooms, so I can understand the decision others have reached. You wouldn't see custom chat channels in WoW being placed on a Guild Progression Thread.

Equal value to Free Companies.

You're taking that out of context. I've stated that it was equal value in the World Progression Thread.

As long as your LS is confirmed a static, there should be no reason why it's left out. You have to confirm if everyone is in your FC anyways. Many "top" free companies I have talked to, have agreed that this is insane. The only difference between a LS and a FC is 15k founding fee.

I would love to know who you talked to. I brought the GM of Advent Union in my VOIP to discuss this and he was absolutely outraged that Linkshells were deserving of the same credit as Free Companies. To be honest I was willing to leave existing Linkshells on the list, but he brought up good points.

[doa165]

I would love to know who you talked to. I brought the GM of Advent Union in my VOIP to discuss this and he was absolutely outraged that Linkshells were deserving of the same credit as Free Companies. To be honest I was willing to leave existing Linkshells on the list, but he brought up good points.

so you admit that multiple top guilds is royalz and au?

[DreXxiN]

so you admit that multiple top guilds is royalz and au?

I've reached out to NOS, CTRL, and am reaching out to others for opinions and am waiting for responses.

[DreXxiN]

So you're saying that you wish to run Leviathan under different standards that are accepted and run by every other Server and the World?

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ression-Thread

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ion-Thread-2.5

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ression-Thread

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ad-Version-2.0

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ression-Thread

Just by clicking random links on the Server list, it would seem that FC-specific progression is the "norm", which I'm trying to adhere by. Again, I'm not discrediting Linkshell clears, but you give nothing up by doing it as a Linkshell. If people aren't willing to take their static and create a Free Company out of it, doesn't the clear advantages speak for itself?

[Thanix]

doesn't the clear advantages speak for itself?

What advantages?

[DreXxiN]

What advantages?

Mostly complete lack of commitment. My return question is if it doesn't pose an advantage or isn't easier either mechanically or emotionally, why don't the Linkshell players form an FC?

[Ashenami]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ression-Thread

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ion-Thread-2.5

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ression-Thread

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ad-Version-2.0

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ression-Thread

Did you even read those links? THREE out of the FOUR of those allow LS and Mixed groups. Please address my former statement as well--- "You can accomplish the same thing AND still give Linkshells the recognition they deserve by placing [LS] next to their name. That way, FC's can still use the recognition for their recruitment."

[DreXxiN]

Did you even read those links? THREE out of the FOUR of those allow LS and Mixed groups. Please address my former statement as well--- "You can accomplish the same thing AND still give Linkshells the recognition they deserve by placing [LS] next to their name. That way, FC's can still use the recognition for their recruitment."

I did read the links, and there's 5. They acknowledge mixed groups but only a couple specify that linkshells are okay and most require FC only or FC tags in the screenshot.

I addressed your second point.