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    Quote Originally Posted by MythToken View Post
    Clipping is the devil, you are literally cutting the potency off of your Dot. You are also losing opportunity cost that you could be casting another damaging ability.

    It would be better to let them drop off completely and reapply, than to clip.
    As Seravi said, it's not. If it's below 3 seconds, you're golden since DoTs tick on a 3 second "timer." Chances are your full potency has already gotten off and you're refreshing for the new potency
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argentt View Post
    I'd say BRD attacks follow more of a priority system than an actual rotation. I'm sure there's an exact specific opening rotation to maximize DPS, but past the first 10 GCDs or so, a static rotation goes out the window.

    The main things to remember when applying the dots is that you want to apply them with as much crit as possible for the River of Blood procs. So you'll always want to have the straight shot buff up when casting dots, and you'll also want to pop Internal Release before applying them whenever it is available.
    What about RS and BfB? Just keep then on CD and burn them when up if you're not saving then to burst an add down? Do people prefer to stack RS and BfB on top of each other or use them separately?
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    Stacking them is great damage when you can do it, and if you can keep them on cooldown they line up together every other cast of raging strikes. In practice it's all dependent on the fight as you may have to hold back for burn phases or to watch out for the BfB debuff when there's unavoidable damage coming up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64 View Post
    As Seravi said, it's not. If it's below 3 seconds, you're golden since DoTs tick on a 3 second "timer." Chances are your full potency has already gotten off and you're refreshing for the new potency
    This is useful info, did not know that.
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    Even if you lose potency from clipping too early, it would not be a complete waste. The damage from VB and WB well exceeds that of Heavy Shot at 2/3 ticks. Less TP-efficient, sure, but compared to the baseline of Heavy Shot spam only it's still an "increase".
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    If you're going to use that macro, Heavy Shot goes first.
    Yeah my bad, I just copy pasta'd it. Heavy shot should be first.

    Don't use this macro, at least not religiously.
    It's been tested and shown that the difference between a macro and doing it manually is pretty much non-existent.

    I've come to learn that some bards restrict their blood letter procs, or not knowing when it actually procs due to the use of this macro. Of course there are others who are aware of it when it's actually up etc.,
    This is why you use the /micon "Bloodletter". So your Bloodletter CD isn't off in some other section of the screen. Losing DPS isn't an issue if you pay attention and hit your BL procs between GCD's.
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    Last edited by blowfin; 05-21-2014 at 11:02 AM.

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    The only macro'ed skill I have is BL on Heavy Shot which goes:

    /ac "Heavy Shot" <t>
    /ac "Bloodletter" <t>

    So that I can just keep spamming that macro and BL will always just fire off when available. Of course I have the BL button by itself on hotbar to monitor if proc'ed and/or manually weave it in between refreshing the 2 DoTs if it's available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaelseMikiro View Post
    But if you want to get picky, since VB front loads 100 potency, you could use it first on any enemy that you'd expect to die in <12 seconds, and WB first on one that you'd expect to live > 12 seconds. As both skills would have done exactly 240 potency worth of damage at 4 ticks (12 sec)
    I disagree. I did the math on it several months back, and it actually breaks down even more than that.
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    I need to add something about multi-target like T4, Liviathan, T7, etc : put your dots on EVERYTHING you can. Common sense, but a lot of BRD seems to ignore the fact that Windbite is 330 potency and VB is 290, without spending too much TP.

    Even for the T4, I find this more efficient (for the group) to dot all the spiders than spamming WV and use Paeon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcyon1 View Post
    I need to add something about multi-target like T4, Liviathan, T7, etc : put your dots on EVERYTHING you can.
    And to touch briefly on Leviathan, the period between his head popping up for the first slam and the tail popping up for the first time is a period in which you can still attack the head without it reflecting. You have just enough time for two GCD and two oGCD (not counting the Flaming Arrow you should be dropping).
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