The growing entitlement issues of the casuals

[Dreamer]

I tend to think of hardcore gamers as people for whom games are a hobby as opposed to just a pastime. The idea that hardcore equates to ability in a game is flawed. Just because someone invests time in something doesn't mean they are good at it.

It actually goes a bit further than that. For the really hardcore, it's not just a hobby, their lives revolve around it. Back when I played WoW, I knew players would literally spend 8-12 hours per day in game.

[Ilean]

It actually goes a bit further than that. For the really hardcore, it's not just a hobby, their lives revolve around it. Back when I played WoW, I knew players would literally spend 8-12 hours per day in game.

Aye, should commodities be designed with pathological behavior in mind? Not IMO.

Yes they are entitled to live their lives as they want but when they start berating others for being full human beings...

Yup.

[Mireille]

It actually goes a bit further than that. For the really hardcore, it's not just a hobby, their lives revolve around it. Back when I played WoW, I knew players would literally spend 8-12 hours per day in game.

Actually a hobbyist can invest as much time money and effort into their hobby as they do into job and family. I think you can make a distinction between a hardcore gamer and someone for whom gaming is a part of some mania, but the only thing that distinguishes a hobbyist from a pro is one of them gets paid to do it and the other doesn't. In point of fact some hobbyists open businesses based on their hobby. Check out model train stores, or gun dealers and you will find hobbyists working behind the counter.

For those who do this because it feeds some psychological problem you could liken it to a dependency like drug addiction, gambling, or sex addiction. They aren't hardcore gamers they are struggling with some other life issues and escaping into a game.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

It actually goes a bit further than that. For the really hardcore, it's not just a hobby, their lives revolve around it. Back when I played WoW, I knew players would literally spend 8-12 hours per day in game.

i played ffxi for 20 hrs a day >.> yet i'm here for fun. Not to be an extreme elitists mofo. I dislike tv and there is nothing in my town. And i have a few issues so i'm sorta limited in what I can do. I didn't always level sometimes that 20 hours would be talking in my shell. I was only in 2 endgame LS's both less then 3 mnths due to 1 being elitists, seconbd broke thanks to a german couple and a crazy brit who tried talking over the shall caling most americans lazy. The leader of said shell got screwed over because he was west coast and the brit would get nearly everyone to do runs with him instead of the leader. I stoped doing endgame after that.

So not everyone is like how you claim. You like making generalized comments.

[Venat]

i played ffxi for 20 hrs a day >.> yet i'm here for fun. Not to be an extreme elitists mofo. I dislike tv and there is nothing in my town. And i have a few issues so i'm sorta limited in what I can do. I didn't always level sometimes that 20 hours would be talking in my shell. I was only in 2 endgame LS's both less then 3 mnths due to 1 being elitists, seconbd broke thanks to a german couple and a crazy brit who tried talking over the shall caling most americans lazy. The leader of said shell got screwed over because he was west coast and the brit would get nearly everyone to do runs with him instead of the leader. I stoped doing endgame after that.

So not everyone is like how you claim. You like making generalized comments.

You just said you only sleep for 4 hours a day... unless your asleep and you still play the game.