Best Gear in Coil needs to end

[Awrini]

Actually yes. You could at least sell 6-8 pretty easily.

First quote was based more toward cheesing the fight than making it improbable to lose.

Second quote was directed at changing coil to a CT type lockout of 1piece/WK run as much as you want type deal.

[Gormogon]

No amount of echo will stop you from wiping your pug group in T7.

I'd rather take wipes over drama and rage quitters.

[PopeHat]

I'd rather take wipes over drama and rage quitters.

Echo somehow stops rage quitting and drama?

[Ooshima]

whole coil, meaning you get to ilvl110 11 weeks after patch, both sets after 22 weeks
and buffered meaning you could do whole progress to ilvl110 at last day of 11th week, provided you paid for those 2,5? months

it speeds up gearing of population, but can hinder gearing of individuals as noone can get more then one i110 per week

could you really sell t6-t9 easily ? is it that easy ?

The idea of everyone able to get a loot per week is indeed tempting but if it's CT style kind of things.. not sure how I'd feel.

T6-T9 might not be that easy to sell at this stage probably. T6 maybe possible for the top teams with i115 weapons and over i100 gears using burn method, probably similarly do-able with T7 since it's a mechanic/discipline check rather than a DPS check. T8 and T9, not now I suppose, but I have seen T5 being sold when there isn't any echo buff. So.. maybe some time in the future when people are more geared, T8 and T9 may be a possibility - but if you accelerate gearing using CT method, then such possibilities becomes faster.

[Gormogon]

Echo somehow stops rage quitting and drama?

I don't have to give a hoot about DF drama and rage quitters, especially when rage quitters will be replaced easily via duty finder. Don't tell me you don't know how DF works?

[Eidolon]

I'd rather take wipes over drama and rage quitters.

To be fair: By the time Echo is added, T7's mechanic will most likely change. What was once an AoE petrify lasting, what is it - 30 seconds? Will probably because a 2-5 second petrifcy on player characters without the one-shot mechanic. =/

[PopeHat]

To be fair: By the time Echo is added, T7's mechanic will most likely change. What was once an AoE petrify lasting, what is it - 30 seconds? Will probably because a 2-5 second petrifcy on player characters without the one-shot mechanic. =/

Rot still kills in one shot doesn't it?

Also Gorm, df sounds like a blast. If there is one thing df groups are known for, it's their coordination.

[Awrini]

Actually had rot explode yesterday and it only did 6900 which is much less than I remember. Was doing 1tank 1healer for fun and we let a voltage go off which screwed us. MT died. Second pull was fine though.

[Eidolon]

Rot still kills in one shot doesn't it?

Also Gorm, df sounds like a blast. If there is one thing df groups are known for, it's their coordination.

Aye. but I remember when High Voltage could -royally- **** a party and snowball straight into a whipe - often starting with healers not being able to get heals off, or tanks not being able to dodge Repellign cannons anymore. I imagine SE would've changed Rot if the Enrage method hadn't gained -so much- popularity. =/ In the end, doesn't seem like there's a point to change rot when no one does such a method.

[Ooshima]

Aye. but I remember when High Voltage could -royally- **** a party and snowball straight into a whipe - often starting with healers not being able to get heals off, or tanks not being able to dodge Repellign cannons anymore. I imagine SE would've changed Rot if the Enrage method hadn't gained -so much- popularity. =/ In the end, doesn't seem like there's a point to change rot when no one does such a method.

That's why no more soft enrage nonsense for 2nd coil, everything's hard enrage now. No more AoE heal spams on T2 and T4 to get it done.