Best Gear in Coil needs to end

[Gormogon]

In other words, make it faceroll easy.

Believe what you will you obviously don't want to partake in this conversation outside of being upset at everything because your jimmies get rustled.

[juniglee]

1.) The difference is that more than 2 pieces might be worth getting that has actual stats that are a real upgrade from ilvl90 gear outside of vit.
2.) The need for alternatives is because the 0 tolerance mechanics of coil doesn't make it easy to do simply because you have more gear. More gear, more like 2 pieces, doesn't turn a 0 tolerance mechanic into a 2 mistakes it's gg for everyone mechanic.
3.) Manage a raid, literally right now, drop your static and go into party finder, go make a static outside of your fc/ls and friends, for 2 whole months tell me how that goes make sure to record all of it good and bad.

1. ilv100 is also a real upgrade to i90 gear. i90 crafted is also an upgrade over i90 allagan/myth gear. Why specifically, do you need i110? Why is i100 not good enough? It is also a DPS upgrade - increased STR, increased DEX, increased INT.
2. What's to say CT2 won't have its own 0 tolerance mechanics too? If it does, will you lot still continue asking for ONE more gear progression route? Echo buff certainly hasn't helped anyone with Titan EX, and it's been around for 3 months.
3. Pray switch to Tonberry please. There's PF for T9. People have been clearing T8 via PF as well.

[Duuude007]

Believe what you will you obviously don't want to partake in this conversation outside of being upset at everything because your jimmies get rustled.

Now you are just trying to incite a fight.

I have posed many points, if you want to cherry-pick what to respond to, that's your perogative.

[Gormogon]

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1.) you lose accuracy
2.) CT had 0 tolerance mechanics yet it was way more lenient than titan's landslide and half of twintania's kit.
3.) I said for you to do it.

If you think managing a raid full of strangers new to raiding beings so easy to do go ahead and do so. See for yourself first hand and record the experience.

[juniglee]

1.) you lose accuracy
2.) CT had 0 tolerance mechanics yet it was way more lenient than titan's landslide and half of twintania's kit.
3.) I said for you to do it.

If you think managing a raid full of strangers new to raiding beings so easy to do go ahead and do so. See for yourself first hand and record the experience.

Why do you have to manage "strangers"?

1. You can look for a group.
2. You can form your own group. It ends up becoming an LS/FC of its own anyway. LS raid parties aren't uncommon.

It's all been there, done that. I joined this game with no friends, and I made new friends in my FC. Our roster has been mixed and matched a number of times - people come and go. Managing a static is no different than managing "strangers". When I joined my raid static, I was the outsider, and everyone else were strangers.

I don't get why you are defending people who are too lazy to look for a group. There's PF, there's shout channels, there's official server subforums, there's a number of community forums, and there's Reddit. Lots of outlets to look for a group. Just because you don't want to find one, or deal with people, does not mean that content should be made easier for you.

CT gear was i80. Made for dealing with Binding Coil (i90). I don't see how Soldiery at the moment is any different. The Warrior of Light tank set from CT had no accuracy either. CT was definitely more lenient than Titan EX, and Twintania, but the cost was that the gear you got from it was 10 item levels lower than the gear from Titan EX and Twintania (Twintania drops i95 weapons, but also drops i90 armor/accessories).

Don't pick the hard way (pugging Coil week in week out), then complaining stuff should be made easier for you.

[Gormogon]

Why do you have to manage "strangers"?

If you don't want to do it, just say so. No need of being so defensive despite saying it was so easy to do.

Just because others can do what you wont doesn't mean you have the liberty to hide behind their success.

[juniglee]

If you don't want to do it, just say so. No need of being so defensive despite saying it was so easy to do.

Just because others can do what you wont doesn't mean you have the liberty to hide behind their success.

Yep. Continue ignoring all other points made. Well done!

[Vittorino]

Disagree Entirely with this guys thread.

[Gormogon]

Yep. Continue ignoring all other points made. Well done!

You ignore mine I ignore yours it's only fair.

Take it up with the 0 tolerance mechanics guy if you hate it so much.

Disagree Entirely with this guys thread.

Agree Entirely with this guys thread.

[PotatoWafflez]

I have no real issues with this system as its basically just a loot and token system save for the fact it also requires you to have bought gear you get from 4 man content, I see the benefits for this in terms of development costs in terms of models, but maybe the tokens should have been used to upgrade the coil 1 gear instead, I think the main issue the average player will have about it currently is they can get the new tome gear from 4 man content but can't upgrade it unless they do 8 man content. If the upgradable "token gear" was drawn from the previous turns it would only be accessible by people who actually do coil and it would also increase the amount of people farming the older turns in order to get full sets for the less luck based token upgrade.

You can't really win regardless as someone isn't guaranteed to have a whole set but the way I see it they did it this way, as tomes allow for token upgrades removed from RNG and to entice more people to run coil who might not have.