Best Gear in Coil needs to end

[SarcasmMisser]

With these many options, I do not understand why this topic is even... a topic.

For 41 pages no less, do people realize that even the fact that this is a vertical gear progression game ensures that eventually they will get the gear they want? Do they remember all the people complaining in 2.0 that myth gear would take months to get, and then everyone forgetting like that ever happened once 2.1 rolled around and most people were running around in full i90?

It's even talking about it like it isn't already a done deal, 2.2 was over a month ago and this is the design choice they made and there is nothing you can do about it other than whine impotently. It was a departure from 2.0 where you could get bis weapons and gear purely from tomes, which left most people during 2.1 with nothing to do but gear alts, something which a lot of people complained about. This time it feels like a response to that flaw and people will still have things to do until the next coil and jump in ilevel.

2.3 will certainly have horizontal gear added which means I would bet money you can get i110 without coil then, until then what do people expect will happen? An emergency patch that drops the sands requirement for gear? When hell freezes over.

[Gormogon]

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Reminds me of the black and white approach some devs use to talk about in interviews a couple of gens ago instead of finding an appropriate balance.

A: I don't like gear being easy to obtain. B: Fine everything's hard.
A: I don't like gear being hard to obtain. B: You don't like it easy or hard? We don't get you /ignore.

Instead of just making a couple of solid tiers of progression with appropriate and balanced difficulty and time constraints to them.

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You know how long it takes to get unweathered gear or did you just decide to completely forget about the weekly soldiery cap?

Alternatives are welcome but the time constraints to them aren't. I'd rather wait for the echo buff than get full soldiery.

[Duuude007]

You know how long it takes to get unweathered gear or did you just decide to completely forget about the weekly soldiery cap?

I know that I have unweathered noct head, chest, hands, waist, legs and feet, right now.

The full left column.

More than enough to be coil 2 ready, even if I mix and match with i90 gear for accuracy, etc.

[PopeHat]

Reminds me of the black and white approach some devs use to talk about in interviews a couple of gens ago instead of finding an appropriate balance.

A: I don't like gear being easy to obtain. B: Fine everything's hard.
A: I don't like gear being hard to obtain. B: You don't like it easy or hard? We don't get you /ignore.

Instead of just making a couple of solid tiers of progression with appropriate and balanced difficulty and time constraints to them.



You know how long it takes to get unweathered gear or did you just decide to completely forget about the weekly soldiery cap?

Alternatives are welcome but the time constraints to them aren't. I'd rather wait for the echo buff than get full soldiery.

Unfortunately there is no enrage cheese in new coil. No amount of echo will stop you from wiping your pug group in T7.

[Awrini]

Unfortunately there is no enrage cheese in new coil. No amount of echo will stop you from wiping your pug group in T7.

Renauld stacking strat would like a word with you.

[Ooshima]

Renauld stacking strat would like a word with you.

Using that strat will not guarantee you a T7 clear. It just make it possibly easier, if your kiter knows how to stack properly.

Time sinks eh. What about the fact that there is 5 sets of gear to obtain. Suddenly 12 weeks becomes 60. I thought the multi class feature was a major selling point. If people gear out one class and say they're bored it is their own fault.

Multi class is a selling point but even pre 2.2, it's not that easy to i90 gear all your 9 jobs. Given how coil goes, you still have to plan for a main class which you are to primarily gear for, while at a later stage, able to gear up a few of your other jobs which you play frequently.

People who can really excel at all jobs are rare anyways - heck it's not that easy to find people who can perform at end game level for 3-4 jobs. It's really a non issue. If you're that good that can play all 9 jobs at end game/T9 level and thus you feel the dire need to gear all of them to i110 level, you'd be probably in one of the top teams that have already cleared T9 by now. Which my current FC have a handful of such players with their main job at/over i100 avg level and secondary job also nearing i100 (i95-i100 range). Eventually they'd get quite a handful of them very geared before the next coil being released.

[Gormogon]

No amount of echo will stop you from wiping your pug group in T7.

I'd rather take wipes over drama and rage quitters.

[PopeHat]

I'd rather take wipes over drama and rage quitters.

Echo somehow stops rage quitting and drama?

[Gormogon]

Echo somehow stops rage quitting and drama?

I don't have to give a hoot about DF drama and rage quitters, especially when rage quitters will be replaced easily via duty finder. Don't tell me you don't know how DF works?

[Eidolon]

I'd rather take wipes over drama and rage quitters.

To be fair: By the time Echo is added, T7's mechanic will most likely change. What was once an AoE petrify lasting, what is it - 30 seconds? Will probably because a 2-5 second petrifcy on player characters without the one-shot mechanic. =/