hahahah how SE got balls and i love it (happy thread please)

[Gramul]

What if your game is a triple A title that doesn't have dozens of features that have been standards in games since the mid-late 90's?

It's fine if those standards aren't necessary to have a good game.

But try releasing a GoW clone that doesn't have jump, or voice chat, or fast weapon switch, or any other common FPS feature. See how far that gets you.

That's a pretty easy thing to do as God of War has nothing to do with being a modern FPS.
Joking aside, not all FPS games have or need voice chat (such as single player FPS games) or even in some cases (for indie games and Doom mods mostly) jumping. Features like jumping and voice chat, while nice additions for many games that have them, are not necessary to have a fun game. But features like fast weapon switch is one of those good modern features I was talking about as it prevents having to stop the game to select a weapon, and lets the game continually flow.

[Rydin]

All of you who are passionately for or against jumping in this game go to a mirror right now and say:

"I take the issue of characters jumping in final fantasy XIV very seriously"
I'll wait....

Back.. now if you could say that with a straight face... then in might be time for some introspective examination on what your life has become.....

Walk.. jump... crawl.. who cares?

[Gramul]

All of you who are passionately for or against jumping in this game go to a mirror right now and say:

"I take the issue of characters jumping in final fantasy XIV very seriously"
I'll wait....

Back.. now if you could say that with a straight face... then in might be time for some introspective examination on what your life has become.....

Walk.. jump... crawl.. who cares?

I'm just concerned about the jump spamming problem that appears in most games with the feature, but like I said, I'm going to wait and see how it goes. Really, if jump spamming does happen, it's not the end of the game for me. It's just an annoyance I'd rather not deal with, but I will if I have to.

[Frisque]

Combo breaker.

this made me chucklesnort!

[CrystalWeapon]

I'm just concerned about the jump spamming problem that appears in most games with the feature, but like I said, I'm going to wait and see how it goes. Really, if jump spamming does happen, it's not the end of the game for me. It's just an annoyance I'd rather not deal with, but I will if I have to.

They could always add in a filter command for the jump animation. With how many people are against it, I'm sure they've thought of that already.

[DNO]

ok everyone the jumping talk stops now. I asked for a happy thread. you know who you are please leave.

I want postives about what the team is planning... please no more jump crap.

thanks

[Wolfie]

It's fine if those standards aren't necessary to have a good game.

That's a pretty easy thing to do as God of War has nothing to do with being a modern FPS.
Joking aside, not all FPS games have or need voice chat (such as single player FPS games) or even in some cases (for indie games and Doom mods mostly) jumping. Features like jumping and voice chat, while nice additions for many games that have them, are not necessary to have a fun game. But features like fast weapon switch is one of those good modern features I was talking about as it prevents having to stop the game to select a weapon, and lets the game continually flow.

Evidently, those standards DO affect the game, since it has a metacritic score in the 40's.

My bad about Gears of War though, I was thinking of something else. But I challenge you to name a popular multiplayer FPS shooter that doesn't have voice chat, or scoreboards, or whatever. Single player FPSes can get away without voice chat, yes, but not multiplayer ones. Again, these features are now standard and required to have a good game.

[Gramul]

ok everyone the jumping talk stops now. I asked for a happy thread. you know who you are please leave.

I want postives about what the team is planning... please no more jump crap.

thanks

So...is your signature sarcastic or...?

Evidently, those standards DO affect the game, since it has a metacritic score in the 40's.

I wasn't really talking about XIV, more the concept in general.

My bad about Gears of War though, I was thinking of something else. But I challenge you to name a popular multiplayer FPS shooter that doesn't have voice chat, or scoreboards, or whatever. Single player FPSes can get away without voice chat, yes, but not multiplayer ones. Again, these features are now standard and required to have a good game.

I suppose you wouldn't count Minecraft.

My main point is that people don't play old games without all these features just for the nostalgia factor. They play them because they're fun games and regardless of these modern features, and demanding that new games retain all these features regardless if they really add anything substantial to the game or not seems shortsighted to me.

Some features are helpful, some features are unnecessary and end up being cumbersome to the overall experience. Just because something is new and modern does not automatically make it good or necessary.

[Verecund]

I hope they at least give jump a dynamic, unique, and interesting role to play and not just implement it as a big red button to press (which is essentially the way it was for WoW; outside of the more sandbox PvP environment, the jump feature never had a distinct role in PvE encounters, minus maybe 1 fight)

It would be interesting if they could implement it as a sort of 'dodge'.

[Eugenics]

"minus maybe 1 fight" Well thats wrong.