How to advise hostile tanks?

[Sky_Of_Smiles]

To be fair, nobody likes bein' told how to do their job. Some people need to be told, but they won't like it. And do ya wanna add stress to a game? Probly not. If the person yer "advisin'" ain't takin' to it, all ya can do is leave it alone, lest ya create even more friction for the group. They'll just continue to be shite, and may even begin actively tryin' to be shite to spite ya. Unwarranted self esteem an' pettiness go hand n' hand.

Well said. Helps to remember that the party's goal is the completion of a dungeon/trial in their enjoyment of the game, not who's better.

I personally see parties I get grouped with through DF that aren't performing as opportunities for me to further improve. That way, even if the goal of say defeating Titan Ex fails for the 1358934568458967420^3894364597364958 time, I can still maybe have gotten something out of it like the delay timing in between titan's moves.

[Zaero]

Well said. Helps to remember that the party's goal is the completion of a dungeon/trial in their enjoyment of the game, not who's better.

I personally see parties I get grouped with through DF that aren't performing as opportunities for me to further improve. That way, even if the goal of say defeating Titan Ex fails for the 1358934568458967420^3894364597364958 time, I can still maybe have gotten something out of it like the delay timing in between titan's moves.

Agreed. Plus, I've learned some people need to be taken to HKU (Hard Knock University). I'll admit I'm not the best tank out there, but some people won't listen. I'll let the angry internet crowd do their thing while I just laugh remembering what kind of dumb mistakes I've made while learning to tank.

(also, it helps when you're the healer and you "forget" where your heals button is in those cases)

[Ashkendor]

A lot are making just for fast queue times, don't know how to tank and don't want to learn.

As someone that mains PLD, this kind of attitude is really disappointing to me when I see it. I take pride in my ability as a tank. When I dodge an AoE, I make sure to step back in front of the mob. I silence/stun whatever AoE's I can. Hell, if I see a melee dps get slammed I'll Cover them. Generally, I just try to do everything in my power to make things easier for the party, because of this exact sentiment:

Well said. Helps to remember that the party's goal is the completion of a dungeon/trial in their enjoyment of the game, not who's better.

Seriously, queueing for a dungeon should be fun. It shouldn't be a completely miserable experience. It should be four people working together toward the common goal of clearing the instance, not three people having to deal with one complete asshole that just wants fast queue times and can't be bothered to learn to play.