Is Twintania beatable yet?

[kukurumei]

The hardest part with twisters is keeping your attention split between dreadknights and the boss. Once you can manage that, they're super easy.

That only happens after the 3rd dred, and probably won't happen again.

For the 1st 2, you alternate DS twister dred, and they slowly get closer depending on your dps and going into twister phase, if you get a dred+twister.

but usually almost always the 3rd is a twister in the middle of dred.

The hardest part here is that you have to have a well practiced tank for DS. Since not only does he have to not cross with other melee, he has to remember to not get an unprotected DS if possible, or at worse call out a Death sentence or stoneskin himself. If there is a split second of heal stoppage, you have a dead tank

Now one says it's just DS, but no, not when you have people running from dreds and moving from twisters. Being out of heal range, or lack of timing will destroy a tank in this phase.

[KarstenS]

For example; you're a white-mage without [...] sure-cast

For what exactly? If you're not to stupid to time the casts around the fireballs in conflag phase, there is absolutely nothing in that fight, where you could use that skill.

Also in other contents timing is the key.

[JammerSidewinder]

For what exactly? If you're not to stupid to time the casts around the fireballs in conflag phase, there is absolutely nothing in that fight, where you could use that skill.

Also in other contents timing is the key.

Are you saying it's better to wait to cast Cure 3 after the fireball hits rather than use Surecast and cast during Fireball so it hits as soon as the damage is done?

[MisakiSatomi]

Got a clear in an instant after i resubbed a week ago. DF is just heaven, couldn't even get to twister phase in 2.0-2.1 with everyone dying at divebombs and whatever else for no reason. Jp server(lol)

When's SCoB DF and why the hell did the new Extreme modes got locked?

[Mergadeth]

The hardest part with twisters is keeping your attention split between dreadknights and the boss. Once you can manage that, they're super easy.

So far we do this to the letter minus the macro sound. We would have made it to the last phase last night buuut a twister happened while we were dpsing a dread. Said twister landed right on the pally and goon. It was all downhill from there. Not sure how to keep dps and stuns on the dread WHILE avoiding twisters.

Like i said, i have no problem avoiding them but then again i'm a bard. The issue is when one spawns while we are focused on a dread.

[SendohJin]

Are you saying it's better to wait to cast Cure 3 after the fireball hits rather than use Surecast and cast during Fireball so it hits as soon as the damage is done?

it's neither better or worse because there is no other AOE damage on the party. you have sufficient time to do it either way with no risk to anyone.

[SulwynCaliope]

So far we do this to the letter minus the macro sound. We would have made it to the last phase last night buuut a twister happened while we were dpsing a dread. Said twister landed right on the pally and goon. It was all downhill from there. Not sure how to keep dps and stuns on the dread WHILE avoiding twisters.
Like i said, i have no problem avoiding them but then again i'm a bard. The issue is when one spawns while we are focused on a dread.

The way I see it is that avoiding twisters should be the priority. For the duration of the twister, the OT should stop stunning and dodge the twister first before getting back to stunning. This is the same case for all the DPS in this fight. Bards have it easier since they can move and still maintain DPS so there's no reason for them to miss a twister. Also, this is why it's important for either your smn or BLM or even your scholar to apply some kind of slow on the dread the moment it spawns. Miasma or lethargy will give your OT enough time to dodge the twister then get back to chain stunning.

I'm not exactly sure how the fight works for a DPS since I've never played one in t5 but as a healer, I barely take my eyes off my focus target bar. I take quick glances at my party list to make sure no one is low but the focus target bar is where most of my focus is at during twister phase. I figure it should be the same for dps. As long as you're keeping your eyes on the focus target bar most of the time and only taking it off to ensure you have the right thing targetted then there's no reason to miss dodging a twister at all.

[valho]

So far we do this to the letter minus the macro sound. We would have made it to the last phase last night buuut a twister happened while we were dpsing a dread. Said twister landed right on the pally and goon.

It was all downhill from there. Not sure how to keep dps and stuns on the dread WHILE avoiding twisters.

Like i said, i have no problem avoiding them but then again i'm a bard. The issue is when one spawns while we are focused on a dread.

Focus target on Twintania, put it next to current mob HP bar, your melee dps do not need to look at the current target HP bar when dpsing dread but putting them close to each other makes it easy to see both but the important thing is they need to always keep an eye on Twintania focus target. This way, they can dps dread while still knowing when twister is casting. A twister on either the OT or melee dps will usually kill both, but a dread that is a bit slow to die will only kill 1 person, so priority is on dodging twister. My group did it with OT + 2 melee dps before echo, so it was even harder since having 3 melee on dread means less space to move.

[kukurumei]

I'm not exactly sure how the fight works for a DPS since I've never played one in t5 but as a healer, I barely take my eyes off my focus target bar. I take quick glances at my party list to make sure no one is low but the focus target bar is where most of my focus is at during twister phase. I figure it should be the same for dps. As long as you're keeping your eyes on the focus target bar most of the time and only taking it off to ensure you have the right thing targetted then there's no reason to miss dodging a twister at all.

Again if you do twisters enough you will have a sense of the timing.
The phase starts with (possible DS) Twister DS dred DS Twister DS dred DS Twister with dred. With very little fluctuations.

so any movement on your focus bar will give you a sense of where you should be.

So you actually know when a twister is coming or a dred is coming to weave in and out. You should have no more then 4 sets of dreds unless people start dying at this echo. So you really only need to learn pattern 1,2,3 sets of dred, with the 4 set that will likely break twin into hatches.

[KarstenS]

Are you saying it's better to wait to cast Cure 3 after the fireball hits rather than use Surecast and cast during Fireball so it hits as soon as the damage is done?

When we was new, we used Cure3. But after doing it again and again (I know this fight with both healer classes), we noticed, its enough to recast stoneskin, maybe a medica if dmg was close to death and fairy do the rest fast enough. No need for wasting mana on cure3.

The only thing that troubles some time is the heal debuff. This seems to be a design decision to give the scholar a place in this fight. Without that debuff healing with 2 whitemages would be much easier in my eyes.