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  1. #451
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    MercuryAcetylene's Avatar
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    Mercury Acetylene
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    1. Do not call me Chief, I do not have any Native American ancestors, nor am I a member of a professional football team from Kansas City.
    2. Do not call me Dog or Dawg, none of my ancestors were canine, and I am not a bounty hunter.
    3. Do not call me Dude, I was not a cowboy that visited ranches in the old west.
    4. Do not call me Sweetie, even though my grandmother said if my grandfather ate any more pie, he would turn into one, and he continued to eat pie, this was well after my birth, so there is no way possible I could have any of the pie DNA.
    5. Do not call me Smartass, no matter my intelligence, it is physically impossible for me to get my head into my own anus.
    6. Do not call me G, my name has many letters, calling my by just one is an insult to the multiaphacharacteristic (yes I made up this word) name that I have.
    Dude, no problem G Dawg my Sweetie. I will not cal you Chief even if you have a mmm-mmm-mmm smart ASS.
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  2. #452
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    Vizzer Mcshiggs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teppie View Post
    Have you learned nothing? They're talking about pronouns to avoid gendering entirely, so it'd be "They they's meat is another they's poison"
    Thank you for the correction, but I suppose we should take this further then just pronouns. When I think of meat, I think more male than female, men are meat eaters, vegans tend to be women, men wanting to be women, or men being forced to be by women, where I think poison as a more feminine word, it's a less physical form of killing. So really the saying should be "They they's it is another they's it." Hopefully this version won't be offensive to anyone.

    Oh, and my take on the words meat and poison are my own personal thoughts, I am not trying to stereotype steak eating women, because I have known a few that could throw some beef down, like if you had to define a word as feminine or masculine as soon as you hear the word, that is what my response would be.
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  3. #453
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    Eruantien's Avatar
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    Eruantien Draugole
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    I generally always call the gender of a person what gender their character is until I know them. However I mistake lalafells a lot, as they are sometimes tricky to tell the difference in game. Camera angle makes it tricky to see other than the top of the head.
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  4. #454
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    Insensitivity in video games has been around since the 80's.

    Shame on you, Guile!

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  5. #455
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    Thank you for the correction, but I suppose we should take this further then just pronouns. When I think of meat, I think more male than female, men are meat eaters, vegans tend to be women, men wanting to be women, or men being forced to be by women, where I think poison as a more feminine word, it's a less physical form of killing, Juliet used poison to kill herself. So really the saying should be "They they's it is another they's it." Hopefully this version won't be offensive to anyone.
    I'd like to point out this quote really quickly where the person politely requested

    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmy_Dee;
    Don't call me "it".
    So the phrase should be read "They they's they is another they's they.
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  6. #456
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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbranox View Post
    I can't even believe this is a thread, my hopes for the future of humanity are slipping
    my hopes have all but gone out the fuckin window... when "reality" tv started taking over...
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  7. #457
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    Well, this sure did turn into a thread full of cis people trivializing and mocking the fact that a trans woman doesn't like being misgendered.

    Sure is some community Square Enix has gotten together.
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  8. #458
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmy_Dee View Post
    Well, this sure did turn into a thread full of cis people trivializing and mocking the fact that a trans woman doesn't like being misgendered.

    Sure is some community Square Enix has gotten together.
    Really it's pointless, people aren't intentionally misgendering you, it's just the default people go to, it's a simple fact of life that can't be changed no matter how much you complain it. While admirable to try and make a different it really is futile. The only option right now for you is to either grow thicker skin, make your own group that you run with exclusively that genders you however you want, or simply quit since I can promise you there is no way you're going to convince a significant enough of the population to gender you properly in random groups based on your character that would ever make you feel comfortable and happy.

    Nobodies really trivializing your condition, I'm sure under different circumstances they would actually be very supportive, what's being trivialized is your attempt to change the entire player bases viewpoint in a single thread.
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    Last edited by Teppie; 05-08-2014 at 05:05 PM.

  9. #459
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    Bunni Stormjaeger
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmy_Dee View Post
    Well, this sure did turn into a thread full of cis people trivializing and mocking the fact that a trans woman doesn't like being misgendered.

    Sure is some community Square Enix has gotten together.
    Here you trivialize and mock the fact that they don't agree with you, or do agree with you and don't see why it's such a huge problem, or they're just mocking each other.

    Isn't language fun?
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  10. #460
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    Mellow Windborne
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    Odin
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmy_Dee View Post
    Well, this sure did turn into a thread full of cis people trivializing and mocking the fact that a trans woman doesn't like being misgendered.

    Sure is some community Square Enix has gotten together.
    Look, here's the problem.

    You're seeing a problem that nobody else is having. Sure, some people don't like being called by a different gender, but they don't make a big deal out of it.
    If a vast, vast, VAST majority of the players does not see the problem, and only you and a handful of others do, then maybe the other players aren't the problem.
    Look, it's really hard to say something like that and I don't want to hurt your feelings, but sometimes you have to toughen up. I know you have actual problems with this and you can't just tell someone to ignore their problem, but maybe you just have to deal with it. The problem here is that calling other players a 'he' is a safe measure that works nearly all the time. And because of a very small exception, everybody is expected to change their ways. Why should everybody change just to cater to the needs of one person? Yeah, sometimes it's nice and considerate, but then we'd have to cater to every single small necessity of every single person alive. Can't make religious statement ("Thank god") because someone is offended. Can't mention romance, love or sex because someone with sexual issues is offended. Etcetera.
    That makes the word unlivable. And here it's even worse because nobody even knows you have the problem in-game. You can't expect the rest of the world to tip-toe around, trying to avoid people taking offense to what they say. If random people don't actually mean bad with their speech, ignore it. They don't know better, and if you want to, correct them. Most players will oblige, and then the situation is solved like adults. If someone is a dick about it, report for harassment.
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