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[Menriq]

How does this 'rotation' of sorts compare to your own?

I don't really have a rotation, as more of a priority system. I try to start refreshing DoT when it ticks at 2, because time it goes off, it's about to drop off. GCD will also play a slight factor in this, since between GCD, I can generally get two OGCD abilites off. After the initial pull, it's basically whack a mole, unless I am saving CD's for a burn / add phase and want to reapply DoT's when I have all the buffs up.

[Menriq]

Hi everyone. I don't have brd leveled yet but will do soon. What is the stat weights for brd. Like how much crit to dex .

DEX is a primary stat, and Crit is a secondary stat. There are two schools of thought: Crit vs Skill Speed. I personally don't have the knowledge to debate, but my personal preference has been Crit, especially since TP can potentially be an issue in later fights.

[Butcherboy]

So pretty much stack up on dex s much as possible? Damm I just bought all i90 crafted piece was planning on stacking it with crit.

[Menriq]

So pretty much stack up on dex s much as possible? Damm I just bought all i90 crafted piece was planning on stacking it with crit.

Make sure you are accuracy capped before worrying about the other stats. I don't think you can stack more of the primary stats on an item. If it had DEX and VIT, you could stack STR, etc., but it's better to add secondary stat.

[Ooshima]

It seems like it'd be better to reapply WB, for example, if your GCD is ready when the timer on the DoT still reads 2 than to wait and do nothing for 1 second for the timer to read 1. no? Seems like it takes half a second, at least, to apply. So if I hit WB when the timer still says 2, by the time it re-applies the timer has gone to 1. Or if it was at 1 the timer goes to no number listed.

I'm sure I do a lot wrong, but I guess I must do a few things right. Hit 309 in Levi ex yesterday w/ i95 Levi bow. There are likely people out there that do a lot better in the fight on BRD. I just haven't played w/ them. And on a dummy I seemed to be getting about 322-337 in 3 minute tests. Curious how that compares to other people with the i95 Levi bow on here. That'll change after tonight since I'll be getting the i110 soldiery bow.

Personally I reapply DoTs with counter remaining ranging to 1-2s, because by the time the arrow is fired and DoT reapplied, I feel it's just nice.

3 mins parse is not enough imo, usually I do a min of 7 min run. The first min parse of a BRD parse can go insanely high.. the first 30s you could see yourself in the 400 range lol. >.>

My BRD friend who achieved sever first T9 on our server is still using the wave bow (i95), his average ilvl is at about i96 or so and his T8 parse was about 32X range - the group clear time last night was 9min 11s so that's approximately the parse time.

[Menriq]

My BRD friend who achieved sever first T9 on our server is still using the wave bow (i95), his average ilvl is at about i96 or so and his T8 parse was about 32X range - the group clear time last night was 9min 11s so that's approximately the parse time.

That sounds about right. I don't think iLvl matters as much as weapon damage. Yes, they are obviously upgrades, but I believe all things being equal, a BRD in i100 and a BRD in i96 would be relatively close; more than likely, would come down to difference in BL procs. Might be worth testing a 7 minute parse with i95 weapon, and then 110 to see what the actual difference is.

[Ooshima]

That sounds about right. I don't think iLvl matters as much as weapon damage. Yes, they are obviously upgrades, but I believe all things being equal, a BRD in i100 and a BRD in i96 would be relatively close; more than likely, would come down to difference in BL procs. Might be worth testing a 7 minute parse with i95 weapon, and then 110 to see what the actual difference is.

Yup you are right.

However I think it's a little special for bards because of how WD relates to your primary stat in general and the fact that bard's WD are generally low compared to other classes.

From blitzball's damage analysis, it's found that the higher your primary stat value, the more influence Weapon Damage will have on your average damage output - which is probably why back in 2.0-2.1, many bards agreed that depending what is your current gear (i55/i60/i70), upgrading to myth chest would be a better upgrade from Relic to Relic +1 due to the sheer amount of DEX upgrade.

That would come down to how much DEX you have, which is essentially measured by avg ilvl, to compliment your existing WD. Take me and my that bard friend for example - I'm wielding an i100 weapon and him an i95 weapon, but he have 15-20 DEX ahead of me before team buff, and the result is that our parse numbers are tightly in the same range. I may have a higher WD weapon but I do not have enough DEX to complement it (it could very well be that he's much skilled than me, no surprises).

I think the significance would be more obvious by comparing a bard wearing all i90 parts but given an i110 weapon, VS another bard with i100 weapon but avg ilvl is 100 and above. I believe that the i100 weapon with avg i100+ gear would have higher damage output.

[Butcherboy]

Well I ask to is that there's really only few i100 I see that's good, example the body. Yes higher ilvl gives more dex but with adding more crit from crafted gear confiscate the lost in in dex. Or it doesn't matter how much crit or ss or det so long as the gear have more dex.?

[AkashiXI]

What do you guys think of Soldiery Feet vs. our i90 Allagan? If I buy the Soldiery, I'll be able to upgrade from Stuffed Cabbage to Deviled Eggs, but I won't be gaining any accuracy due to it. It'll look like this:

i90 Allagan: +15crit/+15determination + Stuffed Cabbage HQ (21acc/9crit) = +24crit/+15Determination/21Accuracy

Soldiery: +16accuracy/+23Skill Speed + Deviled Eggs HQ (24crit/10acc) = +24crit/+23Skill Speed/+26Accuracy/+3DEX

So what it comes down to is that I lose 15determination, but gain 5accuracy (I need it to cap to T8), +3DEX, and +23Skill Speed. Getting crafted i90 is out of the question... I'd rather just wait for High Allagan, but I'm wondering if the upgrade is worth it overall, or will I be losing DPS overall?

[Ooshima]

Well I ask to is that there's really only few i100 I see that's good, example the body. Yes higher ilvl gives more dex but with adding more crit from crafted gear confiscate the lost in in dex. Or it doesn't matter how much crit or ss or det so long as the gear have more dex.?

What do you guys think of SoldieryFeet vs. our i90 Allagan? If I buy the Soldiery, I'll be able to upgrade from Stuffed Cabbage to Deviled Eggs, but I won't be gaining any accuracy due to it. It'll look like this:

i90 Allagan: +15crit/+15determination + Stuffed Cabbage HQ (21acc/9crit) = +24crit/+15Determination/21Accuracy

Soldiery: +16accuracy/+23Skill Speed + Deviled Eggs HQ (24crit/10acc) = +24crit/+23Skill Speed/+26Accuracy/+3DEX

So what it comes down to is that I lose 15determination, but gain 5accuracy (I need it to cap to T8), +3DEX, and +23Skill Speed. Getting crafted i90 is out of the question... I'd rather just wait for High Allagan, but I'm wondering if the upgrade is worth it overall, or will I be losing DPS overall?

Personally,I find the weathered left hand side trash other than the body and belt with is BiS. Pants is debatable, because the High Allagan is from T8 and what it differs is between critical hit and det. Something you can buy if you have absolutely nothing else to buy and the HA pants hasn't dropped yet (or you aren't anywhere near clearing T8 yet).

Other than that, the soldier head, hand and feet causes you to lose too much secondary stat for that tiny amount of DEX growth. For example the boots - 3 DEX gain but 30 sec stat loss from Allagan Boots? I'd call that trash

On the other hand, a properly pentamelded head, hand, waist and feet can be as good as a i100 piece due to the secondary stat gain by stat weightage.

The most worthy piece to buy and meld will be the belt and boots, which naturally comes with accuracy and determination. It's pretty nice without meld, but if you meld in critical it will even be better.

My 2 cents on this.