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[RinchanNau]

Yeah, I'm lucky to get a DRG, honestly. And it looks like you significantly outgear me. >_>

Also curious, do you wind up singing at all? It's not much, but that's 6-9 seconds where I'm not attacking.

And not taking in to account that I'm really going to need to run another LX to make sure my numbers earlier were right to start with. >_>

Yep. I run foe's as much as possible to help push phases. Ballad during the two button press/shield phases if needed. Or at any point during the fight if a healer dies I will run ballad. I guess one could squeeze out a little more if they never run foe's, but I'm not that selfish, haha. If you want to run foe's while still maximizing your personal up time you can put it up right before Levi's slam. It is possible and usually what I do before the last caster add. Start in the middle and then run the the edge of the circle for whichever side you need to be on. Immediately put up foe's before the slam. You won't fall off from this spot.

[Menriq]

Ok, here is the video from tonight. I still didn't do my best, because it was getting late for me. I was low man on the totem pole for DPS and was at 318.

[Ooshima]

Ok, here is the video from tonight. I still didn't do my best, because it was getting late for me. I was low man on the totem pole for DPS and was at 318.

Good vid there, I was particularly keen because personally I'm at the danger zone of zero TP - partly because I have a much higher skill spd due to crafted gears (at one point my GCD was at 2.31s).

I've watched the video, I think towards the 5th and a half minute you were at 30TP left before your Invigorate refreshed (that's a little danger there). Subsequently at 5:58, there was a long period of time, close to 10s you weren't using any TP skills - cos you were trying to get your OGCD to fire off which somehow it doesn't, probably due to lag/latency. After which, at 6:20 and also at 6:44 and also later parts (which I didn't bother to take down the timing, cos I have gotten the idea already), there were short periods of non TP expenditure due to attempt to fire OGCD (saw you spamming the OGCD skill for like 3s before it fires off) which faces lag which probably explains why you didn't starve, which I expected you would given that you almost zeroed at 5th and a half mintue.

I hope you don't get me wrong thou, I'm just extremely curious on how other bards manage TP on T8. As of this moment I'd still have quite some SS above you and I don't think I can escape the TP starve (plus I didn't have much of those lag spikes so my TP expenditure seems to be more constant) :/

We run 2 BRDs for T8 too, with the lesser geared BRD (he's our main WAR) focusing on MP/TP songs while I purely foe. He'll need to do short burst of Paeon for me and the MNK to sustain our TP. Was doing about 331 range according to ACT (if there's no Paeon I think numbers would drop greatly).

[Menriq]

I don't normally encounter lag, but I think some of the delay was due to recording and ACT running as well. My current GCD is 2.43, and I'm still rocking the Wave Bow (been trying to hold out for High Allagan). If the bow doesn't drop this week, I have the tome and the soldiery for the bow, so will probably end up picking that up.

[RinchanNau]

Thanks for the video. Ooshima makes some good points. I generally try to not stop attacking at all. You sometimes leave a lot of dead space while handling mechanics or buffing. That helps with the TP issue. Not saying that's good or bad. I will be skipping a few heavy shots tonight and just using BL and whatever other off GCDs when they proc if I am low on TP and am unable to run a TP song at the time. That'll save me 120 TP per 'rotation'.

Our group configs also differ greatly. 1 melee, 2 BRD, 2 casters for you. 3 melee, 1 BRD, 1 caster for us. So making sure everyone is good on TP is probably more important for our group since we only have 1 caster. After opening w/ foe's I am unlikely to use it again during the fight.

I'll try to remember to stream tonight so I can make a 'highlight'. I've been working on modifying my 'opener' a bit. And there is one more change I may make. Just need to practice on dummies a bit more.

Kinda curious about numbers for the rest of the group if you are the lowest at 318. We downed it 63 seconds before enrage. Your group seemed to complete it in almost the same amount of time, but our lowest two were in the 290-300 range and our #3 was 318. Then again, these numbers are never totally accurate.

[Menriq]

Sorry, I was incorrect with me being lowest. The other BRD was lowest. Our top DPS died, so that killed the DPS since he had just popped CD. I have the screenshot at home, but I think the others were in the 350-370 range. I'll have to watch the video again. Normally I try not clip DOT's, and if I know an add or burn portion is coming, I'll throttle a little so that I can get a good jump on it. Like I said, not the greatest BRD in the world, but I am certainly capable. I'll have to look at the dead space you were mentioning. It was getting late for me qnd I definitely know I was losing focus.

[RinchanNau]

That makes more sense. DoT clipping is tough for me. I have a sort of system in place, but I'm sure I clip a bit.

My normal rotation, in the event I don't get any super straight shot procs is just ss, wb, vb, hs, hs, hs, hs. This excludes all off GCDs. When you add in off GCDs and the fact that I'll squeeze in BL procs right after other off GCD skills (buffs as well as blunt arrow and repelling shot) the timing varies. But it seems like I am usually re-upping my DoTs when they have anywhere from 0 - 2 left on the timer. This doesn't apply to my t8 video from last week where I made the poor decision of not using DoTs for a little bit when I was low on TP. How does this 'rotation' of sorts compare to your own?

Grats on the t9 kills as well. Saw the video. Hopefully we get there soon. Haven't spent enough time yet.

[Ooshima]

Yeah DoT clipping is one thing all BRDs need to learn to manage, I'm still not that good in that department, but Menriq is certainly doing a good job there.

Managing dead space is another thing too - one just need to lose focus for a split second and could cause in 1-3s of dead space

[RinchanNau]

It seems like it'd be better to reapply WB, for example, if your GCD is ready when the timer on the DoT still reads 2 than to wait and do nothing for 1 second for the timer to read 1. no? Seems like it takes half a second, at least, to apply. So if I hit WB when the timer still says 2, by the time it re-applies the timer has gone to 1. Or if it was at 1 the timer goes to no number listed.

I'm sure I do a lot wrong, but I guess I must do a few things right. Hit 309 in Levi ex yesterday w/ i95 Levi bow. There are likely people out there that do a lot better in the fight on BRD. I just haven't played w/ them. And on a dummy I seemed to be getting about 322-337 in 3 minute tests. Curious how that compares to other people with the i95 Levi bow on here. That'll change after tonight since I'll be getting the i110 soldiery bow.

[Butcherboy]

Hi everyone. I don't have brd leveled yet but will do soon. What is the stat weights for brd. Like how much crit to dex .