My thoughts on the Animus issue.

[Gerolan]

I agree that the atma grind would be a lot better if the atmas dropped like the beast tribe fate dailies, regardless of job it still drops
I'm now on to second atma weapon and part of me just can't be bothered doing it as I would rather xp my whm up
If they changed it so the atmas drop on any job I would gladly grind it, no issues doing fates on my whm that needs xp
But having to kill level 3 fates on a level 50 regardless of synch just feels boring

[Assirra]

The atma grind is THE worst part of the animus grind right now. Will have to tip my hat to SE concerning the books, however. The fates you need to do for them are probably best completed during a server's prime time though, 9 times out of 10 there is usually at least 1 other person waiting for your specific fate to pop.

I rather take the atma grind which is actively doing something over sitting on my ass for hours waiting for a bloody fate to pop.

[Lillia]

I agree that the atma grind would be a lot better if the atmas dropped like the beast tribe fate dailies, regardless of job it still drops
I'm now on to second atma weapon and part of me just can't be bothered doing it as I would rather xp my whm up
If they changed it so the atmas drop on any job I would gladly grind it, no issues doing fates on my whm that needs xp
But having to kill level 3 fates on a level 50 regardless of synch just feels boring

A lot of people say that and it's not a bad fix but what about those who lvl 50'd every job or are legacy players with every class max'd? It wouldn't make much of a difference for those players who are probably upset about the system and feel like it's horrible. They need to fix the Atma system for everyone so... while I think this is not exactly a bad idea, It'd probably be better for them to increase the drop rate a tad first and maybe do a system like this after fixing the initial issue if anyone feels the same afterwards.

(Though Idk how this would work out if people could get it on any class and it started clustering some players inventory or people started to not like it due to the CD on skills after switching preventing them from insta participating in a fate.)


Edit: @ Assira, you're doing the same thing except your fate's spawn time is longer and theirs isn't, a fate is a fate and sometimes some areas don't have any at that moment, then one will pop that across the whole map. Missing that fate can make a difference between them getting an Atma or not.

They need to do a lot of things, one of them is to increase some fate timers for the fates that books need.

[Gerolan]

Another way they could do it for those capped at 50 on all classes, is that for each atma weapon you complete, you increase other jobs drop rate by a percentage, even if it's only 1percent, it would soon build up
Animus stage is my biggest issue, I honestly wouldn't grind for 13,500 myth for a single item, nothing is worth that

[alhandra]

i wouldnt be opposed to them selling the atma pieces for GC seals along with the random drops.

maybe put a hefty price tag on them like 45k or whatever the max is. after all, seals are about the only thing of value that a lvl 50 gets from FATES anyways. im sure they could figure out something reasonable that would more or less equal the amount of time they expected most people to get their atmas

just my opinion. luckily i got my atma weapon fairly painlessly. some of my friends havent been as fortunate tho and still only have 2-3 atmas >.<

[TeaTimeBear]

i wouldnt be opposed to them selling the atma pieces for GC seals along with the random drops.

maybe put a hefty price tag on them like 45k or whatever the max is. after all, seals are about the only thing of value that a lvl 50 gets from FATES anyways. im sure they could figure out something reasonable that would more or less equal the amount of time they expected most people to get their atmas

just my opinion. luckily i got my atma weapon fairly painlessly. some of my friends havent been as fortunate tho and still only have 2-3 atmas >.<

Doesn't compute to me of why it is that way. Even knowing it 's RNG still doesn't make sense why it drops so easily for some and not for others. I think my brain is just trying to rationalize the irrational.

[Gerolan]

First four atmas I got insanely fast and thought what on earth are people on about with how hard a drop it is, then I hit a no drop era, that lasted quite a while to the point I'd literally bought Anything of value from imperial flames, including all barding , minion etc, the final one in Southern thanalan look five days... And I can't look at fates the same way now lol

[Gerolan]

I know some might see this idea of too much a major nerf, but bare with me! Remember this is only book 1 so not game breaking.
Trial of fire book 1- defeat ifrit hard mode in only your atma weapon and artifact armor (repeat for trial of wind, earth book 1)
Book 2 - bring your jobs weapon from Garuda, Titan and ifrit and 500myth per book so 500 for titan etc (means their weps have a use again)
Book 3- no myth needed, but defeat say ifrit extreme while equipped with ifrits cudgel (for BLM) (again repeat for other primals)

It would kill several birds with one stone, primal weapons will have a purpose, the myth grind won't be so bad, and for one fight at least you get to remember what that AF armor set looked like

[Lillia]

Doesn't compute to me of why it is that way. Even knowing it 's RNG still doesn't make sense why it drops so easily for some and not for others. I think my brain is just trying to rationalize the irrational.

RNG is a gamble, think of CT drops for example; All the times you probably saw the MNK or DRG gear drop but maybe never saw another class/job's gear drop nearly as much. That is exactly how it works except the drop rate for these are as rare as fighting a boss 100 times and maybe never getting his rare gear drops once while another person got one piece 4 times. It's all about luck and they put the drop rate for Atmas at such a low rate that people feel like the system is broken but the reason they did that was because they didn't want people to get it too fast.

I don't think seals would of been the best bet either because if you noticed the moment 2.2 dropped, Potash and other former myth items were being bought clean off the mb then insta restocked, there were people who had literally 150k seals saved up just waiting to use them all up when content like that dropped.

[Lillia]

Another way they could do it for those capped at 50 on all classes, is that for each atma weapon you complete, you increase other jobs drop rate by a percentage, even if it's only 1percent, it would soon build up
Animus stage is my biggest issue, I honestly wouldn't grind for 13,500 myth for a single item, nothing is worth that

too unfair for those who don't want to relevel another class especially the ones they don't like, not trying to knock your ideas down btw. I actually admire your devotion to look for ideas to help others. Also for your other suggestion Ifrit Ex is sorta the opposite of a nerf. You forgot to even open Ifrit you need to Titan Ex first and win. xD

Edit: The primal weps imo will have a use again maybe drops put into the ex's similar to levi's mirrors to upgrade them and motivate people clear it again giving new people a chance to join them.