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    Lily Lunaheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvin View Post
    I use "He" by default. I swap to "she" if I'm asked to do so.
    And I'm not even thinking that when I say "He" is a male or when I'm say "She" is a female. I don't care at all. I'm just taking the option more probable.
    Seeing this http://news.mmosite.com/content/2013...are_male.shtml I think is totally undestable.

    Quick googlesearch talks about 60-40% split acording to BBC, but I think that they problably asked in game or something like that,acording to my experience is not true. I woud say 80%-20%

    But anyway, this shoudn't be a big deal. No one shoud treat you diferently for being one gender or another, so what? If you feel insulted for an asumption based on a fact (most female characters are guys in R.L.) the problem is you actitude. I undertand that you can feel bad about it and you have a real life problem about it. But you have to take in mind that no one wants to insult you with this.You are the one who have to overcome that feeling.
    Your post makes me a little sad if it's okay to say. Your attitude is a good example of how acclimatised we can become to everyday sexism. It's nice that you will change if you are asked, but the key phrase is "I'm not even thinking". It's just a default behavior for you, and that's the crux of it. Is it so hard to just use the pronoun associated with the character you're interacting with. The game isn't only populated by male characters. I just find it strange I guess. For me personally, "I'm not even thinking" when I choose to use he or she depending on the character gender. See the difference? It's not that hard. If they then correct me, and mention they'd prefer to be addressed a certain way, that is no problem at all! But to just use one pronoun exclusively despite the fact that there are female/male versions of all the races in the game, seems slightly weird in my opinion.

    Regardless of the gender of the person behind the character, you're incorrectly identifying the gender of the character you're interacting with. To only ever immediately use one pronoun when you might be surrounded by female characters seems kind of odd. We may as well just have only male versions of every race. Maybe that's just me, and that's fine. Though do you maybe begin to see the point I'm making? I'm not trying to attack you or anything, just trying to let ppl see it a different way. I also don't think it's fair to declare to ppl "it shouldn't be a big deal". What a deal is to someone, whether big or small, is for them to decide. Btw the "option more probable" just seems to be a bit lazy to me. It means 20% of the time (the numbers you used), you're just flat out wrong.

    (just an aside point.. if the game DID only have male versions of any race, then yes I would expect to be called "he" etc. However, not ironically, I probably wouldn't really play such a game in the first place unless I really, really liked some aspect or theme about it. Hi Geralt ;D )

    Generally speaking, I don't mind any more - and the majority of ppl are respectful and courteous. For a time it bothered me a bit but it's something that we female gamers get accustomed to (and again, probably something most male gamers never even come to realise or think about). If it's a Duty Roulette and someone refers to me as "he" once or twice, I'm fine with it, because I'm unlikely to see these ppl ever again. I'm there to tank, heal or squish things, it doesn't really matter if I have boobs or not. Sure, if someone is repeatedly using "him" lots and lots of multiple times, I might be tempted to correct them, no matter the circumstances. Though sometimes I don't really like to draw attention to the fact and make it seem like it's a big deal to me, so sometimes I *will* actually stay silent - another effect that we have to deal with. Stay silent or look like you're making a fuss.

    Otherwise, the other time I might say something is if I am doing stuff ingame regularly enough with this person that they should probably have the correct idea about me in their mind - but again only if they were using "he" repeatedly, etc. Hopefully that seems reasonable. A lot of the time, most of the ppl never draw any focus to gender and I'm totally fine with that.

    I would always use character gender until corrected. And I will often use their first name. Someone wrote earlier about shortened versions of their name, and how that might bother them, and interestingly, I've always tried to use someone's full first name, even if in the middle of a fight where it's hectic and their name has apostrophes or is difficult to spell.
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    Last edited by Lilysparkle; 05-07-2014 at 08:35 PM.


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