Being Gendered Correctly

[FJerome]

English doesn't have a convenient non-gender-specific third-person pronoun like Japanese does. So it's either pick one and risk offending someone, or say "it". And nobody takes very kindly to being called "it".

"They". The pronoun you're looking for is the singular they.

[Razzle]

"They". The pronoun you're looking for is the singular they.

Well I think he meant "it" as refered to animals. (seeing as miqoutes are not human, btw technically Hyur are not Human too, they just look like them XP)

So we should just call everyone "it"

Also everyone are forgetting not all of us are English teacher (blame SE for didn't list that as minimum requirment for buying the game lol)

Some don't know English well like you do or don't know how to use it. Personally English is far from my main language.

[Tharian]

Well I think he meant "it" as refered to animals. (seeing as miqoutes are not human, btw technically Hyur are not Human too, they just look like them XP)

So we should just call everyone "it"

Demoting fictional Sentient Species to the status of Animals is insulting to the sentient species in question. Just because they aren't Humans doesn't mean they are by default animals.

You wouldn't call Vulcan's animals. Nor would you call "Yoda's Species" (yes that is what his species is actually called) animals either (though a case could be made for Ewoks and Wookies I suppose). Therefore you shouldn't classify Miqo'te as Animals just because they have cat-ears and a tail.

If that were true, then you have only played for 10-20 days.

I was using a form of Reductio Ad Adsurdum. In this use I was exagerating how many RMT I put on there daily to point out that we have a severe RMT problem in this community and that black listing them is the only realistic way of dealing with them instead of trying to report each and every one of them.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

Demoting Sentient Species to the status of Animals is insulting to the sentient species. Just because they aren't Humans doesn't mean they are by default animals.

You wouldn't call Vulcan's animals. Nor would you call Yoda's species animals either (though a case could be made for Ewoks and Wookies I suppose). Therefore you shouldn't classify Miqo'te as Animals just because they have cat-ears and a tail.

Technically, humans ARE animals, since they are not plants or rocks.

Elevating sentient species to something "above" animals is just wishful thinking. But I feel we are digressing :P

[Tharian]

Technically, humans ARE animals, since they are not plants or rocks.

Elevating sentient species to something "above" animals is just wishful thinking. But I feel we are digressing :P

Eh, that is an argument of semantics more so than wishful thinking. I was using the Philosophical categorization of Sentient vs. Animalistic, not the Scientific classification of Plant vs. Animal.

And if you wanted to really get into that argument, I would bring up the Sylvari race from another game who are a race of Sentient PLANTS!!!

Yes I would refer to them as "it". (sorry Yoda for insulting you but you're an alien!)

So you would refer to Commander Spock as an "It" even though the characters in Star Trek constantly refer to him as a He?

[Remilia_Nightfall]

Eh, that is an argument of semantics more so than wishful thinking. I was using the Philosophical categorization of Sentient vs. Animalistic, not the Scientific classification of Plant vs. Animal.

And if you wanted to really get into that argument, I would bring up the Sylvari race from another game who are a race of Sentient PLANTS!!!

Indeed, and I hardly believe that philosophers of the past took Sylvari into account when defining their Sentient vs Animalistic categorization.

Stick to the science, bro!

And just for the sake of argument, Sylvari are anthropomorphized enough to be considered on par with humans, and thus with sufficiently defined genders to be able to use proper pronouns.
But hey, at any rate English is not the only language in the world - in Italian, for example, there is no "neutral" pronoun - so everything is either male or female, no matter the species.

[Tharian]

Indeed, and I hardly believe that philosophers of the past took Sylvari into account when defining their Sentient vs Animalistic categorization.

Stick to the science, bro!

And just for the sake of argument, Sylvari are anthropomorphized enough to be considered on par with humans, and thus with sufficiently defined genders to be able to use proper pronouns.

I would like to point out that there are in fact modern day philosophers (some of whom have a prestigious Doctorate of Philosophy no less) who do discuss modern day philosophical questions. As such the topic of Sentient vs. Animalistic is still very much alive.

Your argument about the Sylvari is valid, though incorrect. Although Sylvari have the appearance of Gender, all of them are barren with only their Mother Tree being able to create new Sylvari. As such they are probably more Bi-Sexual than real world Bi-Sexuals. Their entire view on romance has more to do with Courtly Romance than actual romance as it is understood by other societies in their world. And interestingly enough the concept of Sylvari Anatomy and Sexuality is a very important topic to the fans of that game for varying reasons.

That said, if you refuse to class Sylvari as truly inhuman Plant-based Sentience, then what about the Ent's from Tolkein's Lord of the Rings Trilogy?

Also, your comment about Italian is kind of silly when at least two languages have already been pointed out with Gender-Neutral Pronouns, and I have already pointed out a language (Irish Gaelic) where every cotton pickin' word changes pronunciation and spelling based on whether it is masculine, feminine, or gender-neutral, something that can only be determined by the other words surrounding it in the sentence.

[Razzle]

So you would refer to Commander Spock as an "It" even though the characters in Star Trek constantly refer to him as a He?

I don't watch that show... so sure?

/species in fictional stories = srs buizneses

[Razzle]

Demoting Sentient Species to the status of Animals is insulting to the sentient species. Just because they aren't Humans doesn't mean they are by default animals.

You wouldn't call Vulcan's animals. Nor would you call Yoda's species animals either (though a case could be made for Ewoks and Wookies I suppose). Therefore you shouldn't classify Miqo'te as Animals just because they have cat-ears and a tail.

Yes I would refer to them as "it". (sorry Yoda for insulting you but you're an alien!)

My miqoute is a proud non-human cat-nyah

[Mcshiggs]

I was using a form of Reductio Ad Adsurdum. In this use I was exagerating how many RMT I put on there daily to point out that we have a severe RMT problem in this community and that black listing them is the only realistic way of dealing with them instead of trying to report each and every one of them.

Big words doesn't change that fact that you still have plenty of room on your blacklist.