Being Gendered Correctly

[Tharian]

Because it is common for women to internalize sexism, act on it, and even go so far as to defend it. Because when you live in a horridly sexist society, that sorta stuff rubs off on you in lots of ways.

OMFG, did you really just say that?

First off, learn your history. The Late 18th Century Europe and America were not a "Horridly Sexist Society" by any means of the definition. For that you would have wanted to go all the way back to the 1690's Salem, Massachusetts or the Modern Day Arab Countries that have Sharia Law instituted in them.

In fact, by the 18th to 19th Century, the Women tended to have more power than the Men in their individual relationships. Not to mention that one of the most powerful Monarch's in the entirety of British History ascended to the Throne by 1837, and Queen Victoria just happens to have been a woman.

And just so we are clear, the Salem Witch Trials were instigated by a group of Teenage (or younger) Girls that simply wanted people to notice them. Unfortunately hysteria happened and things went south.

[Pandastirfry]

OMFG, did you really just say that?

First off, learn your history. The Late 18th Century Europe and America were not a "Horridly Sexist Society" by any means of the definition. For that you would have wanted to go all the way back to the 1690's Salem, Massachusetts or the Modern Day Arab Countries that have Sharia Law instituted in them.

In fact, by the 18th to 19th Century, the Women tended to have more power than the Men in their individual relationships. Not to mention that one of the most powerful Monarch's in the entirety of British History ascended to the Throne by 1837, and Queen Victoria just happens to have been a woman.

Just gonna throw this out there, the Salem witch trials were more about class warfare and petty revenge than "sexism". Whole families were accused of witchcraft (and not even kidding, two dogs, a cow, a pig and a monkey, they were all executed. Talk about a... Kangaroo court...)

[Gilraen]

I'm not saying for it to be "policy". I'm asking those that I can to stop assuming everyone is a guy. It's a pretty simple request and all I see are excuses for people who don't want to change their behavior.

I don't assume anything because I don't refer to anyone by anything other than their name. It spares me from having to explain to others who I'm talking about and it's just polite. Now, I do lapse sometimes and break out the pronouns but they'd have to be real idiots or flat out rude cusses for that to happen. You know, don't want to act like a person I won't treat them as one. But that's not the crux of the discussion here, is it.

[Rennah]

Lucke - Doesn't bother me, though I would like to say that's a very different situation than the one being discussed in this thread.

And guys who say it doesn't bother you to be called "she" on a female character, be aware that most, if not all, of us have no problem being called "he" when playing a male character. Like I've said, I gender based on character unless corrected, and I'm fine with the same for me. But wouldn't it get a little sigh-inducing if you were running around on your male character and were called "she" by default...? Of course this is only one small part of a much larger sexism-in-MMOs thing, but the fact is, it's exhausting because it's like the icing on the cake. It's one more small thing, like having a tiny rock stuck in your shoe. Debilitating? Experience-breaking? Enough to get under your skin so much you hate your surroundings? Probably not. But it DOES start to get more and more frustrating with every step you take, don't you think?

[Marowit]

Kimmy if you're going to allow being called a he by random strangers online who have no ill will towards you or any idea about you being transgender might I suggest you find the LGBT directory thread and joining one of those guilds so you can avoid the general population. Don't want to be mean, but your personal circumstances don't mean a lot to the average person and you'll probably only continue to be hurt because people don't ask what gender someone is and or what they identify as before beginning a conversation.

[MercuryAcetylene]

I dont get the big deal... im called a she all the time in game, doesn't bother me none. I really could care less about gender specification.

[Deifact]

Hmm I guess I must be really ignorant as I didn't even know this was an issue. I always use the characters gender (unless I know them personally) and have never had anyone correct me or anything.

It's stupid for people to assume female characters are males, just use "she" if its a female character and "he" if they're male. At least then if someone gets upset they don't have as much of a leg to stand on.

Unfortunately/fortunately though it's 1000 times easier to change yourself than other people. So instead of trying to get others to stop calling you "he", just learn to not let it bother you. You'll save much energy!

[Kimmy_Dee]

"Instead of trying to get others to not step on your toes, try not letting your toes being stepped on bother you."

Even if they aren't stepping on my toes on purpose, they're still stepping on my toes, and this thread is me asking people to stop stepping on my toes.

[Eijii]

I assume everyone is a guy till I actually speak with the person on Team Speak only because men love playing female characters... this is normal in all MMOs... not new... move on etc

[Macka]

I assume everyone is a guy till I actually speak with the person on Team Speak only because men love playing female characters... this is normal in all MMOs... not new... move on etc

That's just creepy. So, the only way you will believe a female is a female is if you chat with her personally. Okay, good luck wirh that.