Best Gear in Coil needs to end

[Gormogon]

You must have missed the constant lambasting of "elitists" on these forums

That's a pretty vocal claim you got there. Especially when not even 100% of all the user base commenting are commenting here.

[Raenryong]

What does 100% of the userbase have to do with it? I specifically stated "on these forums". 100% of posters on these forums post on these forums. It's an all-inclusive group!

Just take a casual glance through many of the threads on the front page. If anyone makes requirements such as ilevel requirements, experience requirements, clear requirements, voice chat requirements, it is "toxic elitism!"! If anyone dares to make a group that won't take absolutely everyone in the game, they are being a "toxic elitist". In threads where opinions are discussed, it is seldom the "elitists" who are the ones spewing insults about toxicity, "needing to show off", etc etc. Granted you are one of the larger posters to do that!

[stephenjd3]

When I make a ilvl requirement for lvl ex, that is not me being elitist, that is me being "hey i know you might be a good player but i really really really do not want to wipe not even once, so maybe have x amount of gear to carry us"

as for i110 being in 2nd coil, GOOD. If you do not run 2nd coil, then there is 0 reason for you to have i110.

Now as for 2.3 crystal tower possibly having a new way of obtaining i110. I am down for that. As long as 2.3 allows premade 24 (which it will) and is very challenging

[RumiP]

That's a pretty vocal claim

What is a "vocal" claim? Aren't all claims vocal?

[DosonTheGreat]

How much i110 gear did blue gartr need to beat coil?

There is no content in the game which requires you to be in i110-115 gear. So why does anyone want this gear?

I've noticed a lot of people didn't notice BG had 4 ilevel 110 weapons which is the biggest upgrade you can get for DPS. They also had the i110 shield for their MT. Pretty hard to not hit enrage without a few i110 weapons. They also wore tanking rings to boost their HP which they would have with full i110. Maybe you should do your research next time.

[ItzKris]

Now as for 2.3 crystal tower possibly having a new way of obtaining i110. I am down for that. As long as 2.3 allows premade 24 (which it will) and is very challenging

2.3 CT will probably not have i110 gear. They already stated in the past that the difficulty would remain the same as current CT (which is easy ). So I don't think the iLvl for this new CT will be very high.
I hope i'm wrong though

[sylent09]

To those saying ilvl110 should be coil only my question to you is..... WHY DO YOU CARE IF WE HAVE IT? coil armor still will look different then our ilvl110 armor. So you can still keep your status of "I'm better then everyone else look" you want so badly. Sands of time should be purchased with tomes, not dropped in coil.

[Giantbane]

I've noticed a lot of people didn't notice BG had 4 ilevel 110 weapons which is the biggest upgrade you can get for DPS. They also had the i110 shield for their MT. Pretty hard to not hit enrage without a few i110 weapons. They also wore tanking rings to boost their HP which they would have with full i110. Maybe you should do your research next time.

It's a far cry from having your raid decked out in full sets of i110 level gear. So what's your argument? You need i110 *weapons* to beat coil 2, but none of the rest of it is needed?

Besides, I'm not really advocating just giving i110 stuff to everyone. If you scroll up a few posts, you might have noticed I suggested it might be more appropriate to have *some* of the best gear in coil (maybe weps/armor?) while spreading out the rest of it (belt/jewelry?) instead of cramming both sets of i110 gear for each class (high allagan + sands/oils) for every single slot, including both the i110 and i115 weps, solely onto the 4 bosses of coil.

[Ooshima]

Besides, I'm not really advocating just giving i110 stuff to everyone. If you scroll up a few posts, you might have noticed I suggested it might be more appropriate to have *some* of the best gear in coil (maybe weps/armor?) while spreading out the rest of it (belt/jewelry?) instead of cramming both sets of i110 gear for each class (high allagan + sands/oils) for every single slot, including both the i110 and i115 weps, solely onto the 4 bosses of coil.

I share the same thoughts as well. In fact, I really liked Patch 2.1 - because we have EX Primals that gives 3 i90 accessories and Ultima HM that gives 2 i80 accessories. It really gives more gearing options - even though some of these items are not BiS for certain classes or jobs, but it's still a decent upgrade. Furthermore, it gives more things to play outside coil.

Our whole primal LS were farming them daily, for weeks to gear the right-hand-side for all our jobs and also to get the primal weapon weekly. In a sense it also made Patch 2.1 "last longer" - quite a handful of us got really bored already.. I mean, Levi/Mog EX is the only thing you could farm which gives 1 weapon and 1 accessory, each from one boss, but Patch 2.1 you could go for 5 accessory from 4 bosses.

[blowfin]

In a sense it also made Patch 2.1 "last longer" - quite a handful of us got really bored already.. I mean, Levi/Mog EX is the only thing you could farm which gives 1 weapon and 1 accessory, each from one boss, but Patch 2.1 you could go for 5 accessory from 4 bosses.

Yeah it's not like there's a weapon quest outside of coil in 2.2 that you can work on.