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  1. #31
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    ciropher's Avatar
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    Great Ciropher
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    Ragnarok
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    Carpenter Lv 50
    problem is my friends that I start this morning at 10.00 am doing fates , now it s 17.10 pm and i got nothing !!! Today is special I don t work , normally i do work 12-13 hours a day so ppl like me that normally have 2 hours to spend on this game will never enjoy
    new contents for me (I started in 1day 1.0 version) this game became " if u have hours to spend is ok" otherwise just quit ??? I'm not saying I want a weapon on the first try but at least a target . I wanna playn 2-3 hours doing progress on something having fun .

    I don t like it anymore . really take too long for this and ppl that say is ok are just the "LUCKY" ones , u have time after school to spend is ok , I think people like me not really enjoing this . It s just a question of Time and dear SE you push people to quit beacause u make a game only for ppl that can spend hours on it
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    Last edited by ciropher; 05-02-2014 at 12:29 AM.

  2. #32
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    Darske Aldrech
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    Ultros
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    I seem to be in the minority of people that actually like the way the atma fates are. Just look back to FFXI's legendary weapons- you needed to put an insane amount of time and effort into getting them. They were the absolute best, but they also required an incredible amount of dedication to get.

    I think maybe what we're seeing with atma is that the Zodiac weapons are supposed to be something like that, the best of the best, but also requiring a lot of work to get. I wish it was more clear whether or not this is the intent, since there's a general feeling right now that you need to max out your relic to clear end-game content. If they're meant to be XIV's version of the legendary weapons, then I think we need more weapons that are close to, but not as strong as the Zodiac weapons. This way there are very strong weapons that can clear end-game, and the Zodiac will be the super weapon for the dedicated player who puts in all that effort to get them.
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  3. #33
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I think what people are getting confused at is relic=ultimate weapon=ridiculous ways to get them cause they're powerful.

    Since 2.0, there has been weapons that were even more powerful than the relics, but were a lot harder to get than said relics. Even now, there's a handful of weapons that outshine the Animus weapons, but you have to endure a lot more punishing trials to reach them since they're like a bonus. Relics, to me anyway, are a player's "personal weapon" and I think they wanted to reflect that with the trials they put in patch 2.2; doable but still a trial to go through. Square just didn't fully think the Atma/Animus stuff through.
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  4. #34
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    Nico Nico
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    Goblin
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    Apparently only players have experienced in bad luck (i.e. 12hr+ non-stop fate without drop) understand how painful and not enjoyable it is.

    Regardless the RNG thing, SE should have capped ONE ATMA ONE DAY from day one. If SE intented "a lot of work" for you, then it should not be able to compelete in one day!
    Without the cap, eventaully SE has to delayed next upgrade quest. It explains the gap between players was unexpected.

    TBH I am gald for the delay, SE please don't push players too rush, enjoyable is the most important factor of ARR ^^
    This is the feedback form a player who play more than 50hr every week, I believe I play too much already.
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  5. #35
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    RaphaelDDL's Avatar
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    Da Lek
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    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by JeniLinsky View Post
    The Japanese fora have also been overwhelmingly negative about the Atma fate grinding situation.
    Asians.. complaining about grinding in MMO???

    This world is doomed!!1!!one1
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  6. #36
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    Krazy Kat
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    Hyperion
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    Marauder Lv 60
    mad about the delay. rushed thro PLD animus to have it ready for 2.25
    also had made a bravura atma b4 2.25 just was wanting to see where novus quest took my first animus b4 starting the books on it
    now its a waiting game...
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  7. #37
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    Hyperion
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    Armorer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by krazyrs View Post
    mad about the delay. rushed thro PLD animus to have it ready for 2.25
    also had made a bravura atma b4 2.25 just was wanting to see where novus quest took my first animus b4 starting the books on it
    now its a waiting game...
    Why wait?
    more atma!
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  8. #38
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    Ryuzu Madara
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    Behemoth
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    Archer Lv 50
    I agree this quest need to be toned down a bit. This quest is too drawn out it makes me not wanting to do it.
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  9. #39
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    Angry Goat
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    Siren
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    didnt know animus or atma was a requirement 0_0

    Anywho, it may be crazy, but it's not for everyone. Just move on.
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  10. #40
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    Hybris Maenad
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    Exodus
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    Archer Lv 50
    Finished my Animus last night, guess I'll supply feedback just in case this is read by anyone on SEs side.

    Don't change anything about the rng/grinding aspect of this weapon. You provided many alternative and superior paths to obtain i100+ weapons for anyone that is skilled at the game. This weapon is in no way necessary for anyone only aiming for endgame raiding nor is it necessary for any content outside of coil. It is a trophy for those of us that are up for a long-term grind, something that was generally lacking in this game.

    The only negative thing I can say about the quest is that it brought back a high level of impatience to the duty finder. Brayflox hm runs via duty finder are in no way enjoyable due to the speed runners throwing a fit every time someone new to the quest joins. Main scenario roulette has also been negativly affected by bringing back a higher number of people that are unwilling to let those newly completing the game to enjoy the experience.

    I would have no problem if the book completion requirements were doubled or tripled to compensate for a reduction in myth tomes required for each book.

    Aside from all of that, thank you for including content that takes a long time to attain/upgrade. I'm proud of my effort and happy to have something not everyone has the patience to complete.
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