PVP Wintrade Exploitation, is this reportable?

[Nicobo]

IMO, Premade teams should have very little exp, (i.e. obtain similar points for 5-10wintrades or 1 normal match), however, it is too late to fix.
Suggest SE find a method to boost everyone so the impact of wintrade does not hurt.
For example, "weekly mission log" add a real big bonus for single match.

[Penguinmayhem]

Whenever you attempt to build a system to reward people for success, people will put inordinate efforts into cheating that system.

[Shioban]

Currently they appear to roll out bans for people intentionally using an exploit for your own gain.
(However in this case it would be rather difficult to set it up to avoid it)

[NyneAlexander]

The current PVP system is so whack as it is, who can blame people for win trading??

[alhandra]

how is this an exploit? it may be kinda cheap, but its hardly an exploit. 2 groups of friends queuing up at the same time in hopes of getting the same pvp match is perfectly acceptable in my eyes, its no different than 2 groups from the same FC trying to get into crystal tower together. or a group of friends trying to get a DR together by only clicking on "D" for their language settings then queuing at the same time. how they play once inside the instance is also none of our business really, unless they are hacking, using 3rd party software or some other actual exploit. and really unless they were blatantly shouting that they are boosting you would have a hard time proving anything was going on at all.

tl;dr

pvp is completely broken anyways, the only point in doing it is for the vanity gear so u might as well make it as painless as possible and just farm it with your friends

[Sapphic]

how is this an exploit? it may be kinda cheap, but its hardly an exploit. 2 groups of friends queuing up at the same time in hopes of getting the same pvp match is perfectly acceptable in my eyes, its no different than 2 groups from the same FC trying to get into crystal tower together.

It's totally different. Surprised how you can even compare the two with a straight face XD

[Mupod]

Between this and the rampant botting it's pretty clear they don't have anyone even watching what's going on in wolves' den. It's sad because queue times have gone to hell on the primal datacenter now that many of the regulars have stopped showing up in real matches. So you end up waiting 20-30 minutes for a match only to get a bot for a healer.

It's just absurd they've let it get this bad without taking any kind of action whatsoever.

[Dhex]

Yeah I don't have a problem with two groups of 4-man queuing the DF for PVP with an alt language selected to specifically get each other - be it for win trading, to farm exp/seals, or just because they're tired of having their faces smeared on the floor because they don't have enough gear/abilities. It doesn't negatively impact anyone so why bother complaining about it.

Honestly PVP is a long linear boring grind where the combat boils down to a slightly competitive round of who-can-knock-down-the-first-domino. Yawn.

[Sapphic]

Except they aren't. They specifically time their queue in pre-made groups on a specific language to avoid "f**king up the game for other people".

Sounds to me like you're just angry you don't have 7 friends that enjoy PVP so that you can split up and fight each other rather than subject yourself to the boring unbalanced mess of a public match.

You know the most fun I've had in FFXIV PVP? Queuing with 7 friends using this method so we could practice 4 v 4, and do 1 v 1 matches until the timer ran out.

Thing is, they aint fighting. One teams doing nothing as the other team defeats them in seconds. Rinse, reverse who takes a dirt nap, repeat.

[RumiP]

If only PvP were important enough for anyone to really care.