PVP Wintrade Exploitation, is this reportable?

[Sapphic]

Except they aren't. They specifically time their queue in pre-made groups on a specific language to avoid "f**king up the game for other people".

Sounds to me like you're just angry you don't have 7 friends that enjoy PVP so that you can split up and fight each other rather than subject yourself to the boring unbalanced mess of a public match.

You know the most fun I've had in FFXIV PVP? Queuing with 7 friends using this method so we could practice 4 v 4, and do 1 v 1 matches until the timer ran out.

Thing is, they aint fighting. One teams doing nothing as the other team defeats them in seconds. Rinse, reverse who takes a dirt nap, repeat.

[Dhex]

Thing is, they aint fighting. One teams doing nothing as the other team defeats them in seconds. Rinse, reverse who takes a dirt nap, repeat.

And? What's your point?

[Dhex]

Yeah I don't have a problem with two groups of 4-man queuing the DF for PVP with an alt language selected to specifically get each other - be it for win trading, to farm exp/seals, or just because they're tired of having their faces smeared on the floor because they don't have enough gear/abilities. It doesn't negatively impact anyone so why bother complaining about it.

Honestly PVP is a long linear boring grind where the combat boils down to a slightly competitive round of who-can-knock-down-the-first-domino. Yawn.

[Logo]

Yeah I don't have a problem with two groups of 4-man queuing the DF for PVP with an alt language selected to specifically get each other - be it for win trading, to farm exp/seals, or just because they're tired of having their faces smeared on the floor because they don't have enough gear/abilities. It doesn't negatively impact anyone so why bother complaining about it.

It negatively impacts PVP overall.
IT'S PLAYER VS PLAYER.
wintrading gives an advantage to those cheating the system.

how this question is debatable to the community really makes my brain bleed.

[Elvin]

how this question is debatable to the community really makes my brain bleed.

Maybe it is because about 90%+ of the player population thinks that the PVP system is garbage?

Of course it's not a reliable stadistic, but I only seem people that seems to like this PVP on the forum. Not a single guy ingame who liked it. Hell, I was on a FC who had a lot of people interested in PVP, and we discarded the PVP section of the game after seing how bad it is

[Okazaki]

Maybe it is because about 90%+ of the player population thinks that the PVP system is garbage?

Of course it's not a reliable stadistic, but I only seem people that seems to like this PVP on the forum. Not a single guy ingame who liked it. Hell, I was on a FC who had a lot of people interested in PVP, and we discarded the PVP section of the game after seing how bad it is

Just because the pvp system is not matured, is not a reason to neglect its growth. And certainly not by exploiting its matchmaking system

[Logo]

Maybe it is because about 90%+ of the player population thinks that the PVP system is garbage?

Of course it's not a reliable stadistic, but I only seem people that seems to like this PVP on the forum. Not a single guy ingame who liked it. Hell, I was on a FC who had a lot of people interested in PVP, and we discarded the PVP section of the game after seing how bad it is

This justifies ruining the system more how?

[Elvin]

This justifies ruining the system more how?

Yeah. The best that system can do is dissapear. I woud vote to take it out of the game and put that gear on dungeons or something like that.




That woud be the best way to manage it. Cause it is so bad that it is far beyond salvation. It can not be ruined, it is a ruin.
So if some players want to do this to give some use do the content (Vanity), is totally ok for me. It doesn't cause me any trouble. They're not getting something that I think shoud be an achievement for playing. Why? Cause they're getting something that you woud get just for loosing several times. (Yeah, loosing gives you wolf marks) And they're getting it from a system so bad that I woud be happy if it didn't exist. I understand that if you are one of the 10-20 guys in the game who like PVP is doesn't sound fair to you, but really, PVP is so bad that I don't care at all. Kill it with fire

By the way, the more important save is the time waiting for a match. I mean, a group of 8 players that make 2 teams and fight each other again and again and again will get a lot of marks too. Woud that be an exploit too? No? And how do you know if they're loosing on purpose? I mean, for sure. They can be having lag issues or just be really bad. I mean, I've being in dungeons with players so bad that I thought they were doing it on purpose.

You're asking SE to bann people for getting theiselves killed in purpose?

Ok, I'm ok with it. But please, also bann those players that get hit by landslides again and again and again. I mean, it can happend to anyone once, but not that much. They are surely trolling.

[RumiP]

If only PvP were important enough for anyone to really care.

[Linadae]

If I recall right, Blizzard did ban people over win trading.