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  1. #111
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    Raenryong's Avatar
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    Serefina Solfyre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ti_Dus View Post
    There's no sense of danger in Eorzea. Eldeime Necropolis, castle oztroja, yutunga jungle, xarcabard...made your adventure feel more like an adventure especially when done alone.
    Sneak/Invis. Only Arrapago Reef was really dangerous.

    I agree with this. Rotations itself are not complex. It's just spamming a couple of skills in order. Skillful play is just pretty much memorization though that's why I'm willing to bet that most of the players that beat hard content watched videos. Everyone pretty much uses the same exact tactics on every fight.
    You don't play any dps! Paladin is also the easiest job in the game by a long shot.
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  2. #112
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    Zumi's Avatar
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    I have to agree FFXI was one of the easiest MMOs to play. Look at Coil Turn 6-9 nothing in FFXI takes that level of teamwork, coordination and raid awareness.

    Skill chains are not complicated it involved looking at a chart and using the same skill chain over and over because you exped on the same mobs. From ToAU till currently people stopped using skillchains altogether because it was a dps loss to not use TP as soon as you get 100.
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  3. #113
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    Buster Posey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raenryong View Post
    You don't play any dps! Paladin is also the easiest job in the game by a long shot.
    Last time I checked Smn is dps. I don't like playing dds anymore because they are a dime a dozen and not as important as support classes. Tank is actually harder to me because one mess up = party wipe while dd one mess up = do less damage. My main is healer btw.
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doo View Post
    Last time I checked Smn is dps. I don't like playing dds anymore because they are a dime a dozen and not as important as support classes. Tank is actually harder to me because one mess up = party wipe while dd one mess up = do less damage. My main is healer btw.
    SMN is not rotation based is what I meant, sorry. Aside from the opener it's largely a priority system. I like playing DPS because most people are really bad at them and DPS checks in this game are harsh relative to the other checks, so high powered DPS is extremely crucial.
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  5. #115
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    It's interesting though, the amount of bad players in this game seems to be higher than any other MMO I've played, yet this is also the easiest. How?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KoujiMoreno View Post
    It's interesting though, the amount of bad players in this game seems to be higher than any other MMO I've played, yet this is also the easiest. How?
    This game attracts an extremely casual and anti-competitive crowd. Just look at the amount of vitriol any suggestion of PvP receives, and the fact that topics like "best gear should not come from raiding" even exist. In any other MMO, this would definitely not be the case.

    Plus people underestimate the difficulty in this game. Even if we assume that the number of people who can flawlessly execute mechanics is high (which personal experience suggests it isn't), there is a vast difference between executing a mechanic and doing so efficiently - can you dodge aoes with as minimum a leeway as possible to maximise dps? Do you let GL fall on MNK? Interrupt casts on BLM? Etc. Good and bad play all add up.
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  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by KoujiMoreno View Post
    It's interesting though, the amount of bad players in this game seems to be higher than any other MMO I've played, yet this is also the easiest. How?
    That's what happens when you feed players fetch it quests, echo buffs, Fate zerging, and straight forward dungeons. Then have end game heavily rely on all 8 players to be able to memorize entire rotations/phases, hard dps checks, and unforgiving dodge mechanics.
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  8. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by KoujiMoreno View Post
    It's interesting though, the amount of bad players in this game seems to be higher than any other MMO I've played, yet this is also the easiest. How?
    Average raid size is 8. Anyone who raided 10 mans in WoW knows that the fewer players you have, the more individual responsibility each player has. So, that one person who screws up and dies hurts a lot more in XIV's 8 mans than it would in, say, a WoW 25 man. Couple this with a playerbase that seems by and large new to MMOs in general and it's not completely surprising you have many unskilled players. Whether they stay that way is up to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KoujiMoreno View Post
    It's interesting though, the amount of bad players in this game seems to be higher than any other MMO I've played, yet this is also the easiest. How?
    Interesting to call everyone bad player just because of wipe...
    So often i see good players raiding for hours without any fail, then just one short moment of not beeing focused and BAM whole group wipe...
    Thats the kind of game we play here!
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    Naja ich hab einfach gemerkt, dass man mit Mut und Freundlichkeit viel weiter kommt und den Menschen eine Freude macht :3
    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3

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    The difficulty in FFXIV does not come in that it is "hard" to do. It's quite easy to understand how to dodge and time things out and the boss tricks. I know HOW to do the fights, I just don't WANT to do the fights - not the way they are set up. And the only reason I even fight is so I can get higher-level gear so things at lower levels are easier. I like to level up and be stronger than the fights so I can enjoy doing them without as much chaos. The difficulty in FFXIV is that it everything is "go go go, OMG!!! panic!" Every boss fight since Titan has been just the same feeling of rush and panic to me, and I don't like that. I don't enjoy or look forward to these fights because they are just more of the same.
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    "There's a time when a man needs to fight, and a time when he needs to accept that his destiny is lost, that the ship has sailed, and that only a fool would continue. The truth is, I've always been a fool."

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