Content sellers and Party Finder

[Sapphic]

Yes, very likely if you need the gear & melds to meet the ilevel requirements. Everyone certainly has had to buy something to get to where their going.

Unless you, someone in your FC, or a generous crafter made & melded your relic for free… harvested or acquired the materials on your own or had them donated to you… the you “paid” for "advancement" of “content” with in game currency.

Cool, I buy gear and I magically clear content and unlock the next tier. Awesome. I buy gear and I don't even have to learn mechanics, or even dodge. wow!

Try again...

[kidvideo]

Cool, I buy gear and I magically clear content and unlock the next tier. Awesome. I buy gear and I don't even have to learn mechanics, or even dodge. wow!

Try again...

I don't need to "try" anything. Macrocosmic view: There is an exchange of virtual money for virtual goods &/or services between players. This is a non-issue.

[Kerowyn]

Our FC consist of two statics and a few other friends, and we sell all the time. Virtually every week we do sale groups. Just made a mil in the last two days for about four hours of sales.

Sales are awesome! For both parties. About 40% of our sales are not bad players. Some players just don't want to put up with PF groups or DF groups.

Now here's the kicker and why I will never support selling content carries.....Do you KNOW how they got that Gil they used to pay you for the carry? Can you say with 100% certainty 100% of your client base earned that Gil through legit means? With all the RMT on the Internet for any MMO out there I believe Content Selling like what your and your FC is doing only encourages the people that buy from RMT.

IMHO what I just brought up is enough reason for S-E to block the sale of Content for Gil. However they have not taken that stance ( so far ) so Selling a Carry is perfectly legal but lame.

[MurakumoMillennium]

Only an idiot would compare the two. Buying crafted gear to help you get through said content, or Paying someone else to carry your lazy ass through said content. See? totally irrelevant argument.

Pay for gear to clear content, pay people to clear content... I'm sorry, why isn't that a fair comparison exactly?

I blist anyone who sells content they are one in the same as garbage RMT. Spammers.

Except for the fact they're completely different, sure. They don't spam, either. You think they should be nice and do it for free? Just use their personal time for your gain? Try that line the next time you try to buy something irl. See how far you get with having people give you free things because they're "nice". Time is money, friend!

For future reference, it's far easier to just say "I'm not good enough to clear content, and I don't have enough gil to buy it". That's really the only excuse for your anti carry crusade you seem to be on, since the big mean meanies actually charge gil for their time and effort.

Entitlement 101: Anyone who doesn't give me free handouts is a @#$%.

[Zhi]

Pay for gear to clear content, pay people to clear content... I'm sorry, why isn't that a fair comparison exactly?



Except for the fact they're completely different, sure. They don't spam, either. You think they should be nice and do it for free? Just use their personal time for your gain? Try that line the next time you try to buy something irl. See how far you get with having people give you free things because they're "nice". Time is money, friend!

For future reference, it's far easier to just say "I'm not good enough to clear content, and I don't have enough gil to buy it". That's really the only excuse for your anti carry crusade you seem to be on, since the big mean meanies actually charge gil for their time and effort.

Entitlement 101: Anyone who doesn't give me free handouts is a @#$%.

Your English improved so much in the past few months, please share secrets

[Awrini]

Now here's the kicker and why I will never support selling content carries.....Do you KNOW how they got that Gil they used to pay you for the carry? Can you say with 100% certainty 100% of your client base earned that Gil through legit means? With all the RMT on the Internet for any MMO out there I believe Content Selling like what your and your FC is doing only encourages the people that buy from RMT.

IMHO what I just brought up is enough reason for S-E to block the sale of Content for Gil. However they have not taken that stance ( so far ) so Selling a Carry is perfectly legal but lame.

So what if they do. They'll eventually get caught. Why should someone selling things, be it "carries" or market board have to worry about such things?

[Skivvy]

So what if they do. They'll eventually get caught. Why should someone selling things, be it "carries" or market board have to worry about such things?

Well, awhile back, SE removed A LOT of gil from legitimate crafters because it was determined the gil was dirty.

[Kerowyn]

So what if they do. They'll eventually get caught. Why should someone selling things, be it "carries" or market board have to worry about such things?

Cause content carries imo feed directly into the RMT Buyers need to buy from RMT in the first place. Without the Carry Sales the only place most RMT currency was going right now was into the market board where a portion of it was removed from game through Fees and through people wanting the fast track to a Free Company House where again the Gil was being removed from the game. Carry Sales are just another reason to Feed the Need for people that don't care enough to do shit themselves.

[Licus]

Now here's the kicker and why I will never support selling content carries.....Do you KNOW how they got that Gil they used to pay you for the carry? Can you say with 100% certainty 100% of your client base earned that Gil through legit means? With all the RMT on the Internet for any MMO out there I believe Content Selling like what your and your FC is doing only encourages the people that buy from RMT.

IMHO what I just brought up is enough reason for S-E to block the sale of Content for Gil. However they have not taken that stance ( so far ) so Selling a Carry is perfectly legal but lame.

I don't care if a buyer buys gil or farms it. It's a stupid thing to worry about.

Regardless is I put X amount of time crafting food and selling it or selling runs, people who buy gil are going to buy my items or services. It's ridiculous to concern myself with the idea gil I have obtained, from crafting or sales, came from a gil buyer.

Gil buyers are going to buy gil regardless of sales being allowed or not.

[kidvideo]

IMHO what I just brought up is enough reason for S-E to block the sale of Content for Gil. However they have not taken that stance ( so far ) so Selling a Carry is perfectly legal but lame.

Hyperbole is not an appropriate reason to halt legitimate in game transactions between players. Leave the facts & fact finding to the GM's & Devs.