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  1. #21
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    xxalucard's Avatar
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    Nurse Joy
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    Goblin
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by AldoVonAlexandros View Post
    stuff
    A lot of what you said is not optimal. For example, in the opening rotation you should be using your pet buffs first + enkindle as you run to the boss before raging strikes (this way you are already "CLOSE" for auto attacks and miasma 2 in advance).

    You should never cast miasma first, there is no reason to. Even with dreadnights you can simply bane your dots from twintania onto it, which is what a "pro" summoner should be doing in the first place (assuming the tank knows where to be).


    Clipping dots that have 6-7 seconds left is terrible, and wastes MP. It also results in less DPS overall. If you are going to "clip" your dots, you should be timing it so that you clip exactly as the timer on it runs out (goes from 1 to nothing, before the dot disappears). This is because your dots get a final tic as the timer disappears.


    You seem to have a grasp on playing summoner, but I don't think you're ready to give lessons yet.
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  2. #22
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    Shikiseki's Avatar
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    Akio Shikimazu
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    Contagion or not, I'd rather use my pot CD for an X-Potion of Int instead of a poison potion but that's just me...

    About Garuda vs. Ifrit
    Even without Contagion, I still prefer her over Ifrit just because her style of her AoE. Ifrit's is really narrow and initiates around himself while Garuda's goes off around the selected target - helps a lot in large pulls.
    Shadow Flare + Miasma II + Garuda AoE + Summoner's attacks can dish out some pretty decent AoE damage. (+ Enkindle of, WHEN it's up that is >_> , dat 5min cooldown)

    Also - Any idea where Ifrit's Radiant Shield is useful?

    Still, I'd say the true mastery of this class comes with a lot of practice and dealing with all kinds of people and classes/jobs. You'll have to adjust yourself to every situation accordingly and communicate with others to get the most out of your dps (like telling others to lure adds to the boss for bane or move close to Titan when they are about to get jailed).
    You're might be able to pull out super duper dps if you do brayflox HM speedruns all day but I'd take the more fun, unpredictable situations any day - there's where I truly shine as SMN.
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  3. #23
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    Scratchington Post
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Shikiseki View Post
    Contagion or not, I'd rather use my pot CD for an X-Potion of Int instead of a poison potion but that's just me...
    X-Potion of Intelligence and Potent Poison Potions are on separate CD timers. You can use both.
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  4. #24
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    Stevie100's Avatar
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    Amy Mizuno
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    Lamia
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by xxalucard View Post
    You should never cast miasma first, there is no reason to. Even with dreadnights you can simply bane your dots from twintania onto it, which is what a "pro" summoner should be doing in the first place (assuming the tank knows where to be).
    The heavy effect of Miasma does not apply off a bane, it only apply the dot as heavy is an additional effect of Miasma. In Twintania, you are correct in baning your dots over, but even then, you need to apply miasma AGAIN in order for the heavy to apply, then get garuda onto it and dps it down
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  5. #25
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    Adeline Shimizu
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 80

    Decipher My SMN Guide

    I made a guide for smn dps- for lawlz (its mildly inappropriate)

    Singe Target: http://24.media.tumblr.com/f7138cb19...o9so1_1280.png

    Aoe DPS: http://24.media.tumblr.com/80f0fbfe7...o9so2_1280.png

    plz don't ban me se!!!
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  6. #26
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    Kirinichibon's Avatar
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    I'zizi Pi
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    Faerie
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    Arcanist Lv 65
    Quote Originally Posted by Adeline View Post
    I made a guide for smn dps- for lawlz (its mildly inappropriate)

    Singe Target: http://24.media.tumblr.com/f7138cb19...o9so1_1280.png

    Aoe DPS: http://24.media.tumblr.com/80f0fbfe7...o9so2_1280.png

    plz don't ban me se!!!
    Leet aoe dps strategy: put down normal cast Shadow Flare...wait until the tank moves the mobs out of it a few seconds later then swiftcast shadowflare.
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  7. #27
    Player Adeline's Avatar
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    Adeline Shimizu
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirinichibon View Post
    Leet aoe dps strategy: put down normal cast Shadow Flare...wait until the tank moves the mobs out of it a few seconds later then swiftcast shadowflare.
    o right, those gais
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  8. #28
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    AarinEphemera's Avatar
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    Erupi Eternalis
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Adeline View Post
    I made a guide for smn dps- for lawlz (its mildly inappropriate)

    Singe Target: http://24.media.tumblr.com/f7138cb19...o9so1_1280.png

    Aoe DPS: http://24.media.tumblr.com/80f0fbfe7...o9so2_1280.png

    plz don't ban me se!!!
    Best guide evaaaar!
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  9. #29
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    Juliana Wynter
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    Cactuar
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    So, I'm really enjoying the class at the moment, but I'm kind of wondering if I'm doing this right. Right now, only 42 SMN, but I use carbuncle in place of Garuda. What I usually do is DoT up one target (Miasma/Bio II/Bio), use Shining Emerald (DoT extender), use Aetherflow and then Bane, Fester, Energy Drain and Ruin II. I then check to see if there's any targets missed by Bane and DoT them up, then go back and just cast Ruin/Ruin II while waiting for DoT timers. Does this seem about right?
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  10. #30
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    Ayukawa Madoka
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    Bio2 first
    Only use Ruin. Ruin 2 is only when you are moving long enough to use the GCD time or when you need to use off-GCD abilities
    Don't get into a habit of using energy drain regularly. It doesn't really matter right now, but later on you'll want to use all 3 aetherstacks on just bane/fester. ED is just for buttclinch final 1% killing of something or if you just got ressed and need MP badly. You may find yourself using it for MP towards the end of some fights like T5 while you're learning it, but eventually you won't.
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