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    AldoVonAlexandros's Avatar
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    Aldo Von'alexandros
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    Crit BiS
    Prerequisite:
    Garuda-egi
    1 stack Aetherflow (with Aetherflow off the cooldown)
    HQ Deviled Eggs for Coil
    HQ Buttons for Extreme Primals
    HQ Mega-potion of Int
    HQ Potent Poisoning Potion (optional)

    Opening Rotation: – (skills in parenthesis are off the global cooldown)
    ( Raging Strikes ) Bio II >> Miasma >> Bio > ( Fester ) > Ruin II + Move to CLOSE RANGE >> Miasma II > [optional] HQ Poison Pot >> ( Swiftcast ) Shadow Flare + Contagion >> ( Rouse ) > Ruin II >> ( Spur ) > Ruin II >> ( Fester ) > Ruin > [varies in fights, read below] ( Enkindle )

    Why use Miasma before Bio II??
    - Miasma applies a slow, and it is crucial in some fights like Dreadknight to apply a slow immediately. Other than that, it is all the same.

    Shadow Flare:
    It doesn't matter if there is only one monster. Use Shadow Flare every time. Think of it as an extra DoT, so keep refreshing it. Pre-cast it on places where monsters will be.

    What makes you a pro summoner is the ability to do the opening rotation correctly, when to use Enkindle, and of course.. to know when to clip your dots.

    Lesson 1: Opening Rotation
    Make sure to cast TWO Fester for each Raging Strikes
    Use Miasma II every time Contagion is ready. Miasma II requires you to move in, so make sure to use Ruin II while moving. Never use Miasma II if Contagion is not ready since it's a waste of MP.
    HQ PPP is optional, but it gives you a DPS boost.
    Weave in Off-the-GCD skills always and use it with Ruin II

    Lesson 2: When to use Enkindle
    Always use Enkindle with Spur and Rouse pet buff up. Enkindle has a 300s cooldown but hits like a truck and is an AOE, so it is imperative to use it at the right time at certain fights:
    Twintania: Use it in your opening rotation to kill Drakes faster, and use it again during Snake phase right after using LB, then use it off cooldown.
    Ifrit EX: Use it in your opening rotation, then again during the last nail phase. Use it where there are two nails beside each other (also Bane there).
    Titan EX normal-speed: Use it in your opening rotation and then again when first set of adds are up (also Bane there).
    Titan EX Speedkill: Save it until add phase. Use Bane and then Enkindle.
    Garuda EX: Use in your opening rotation, and again for plumes phase (don't hit Spiny).
    Coil T1-T4: Use if off cooldown.

    Lesson 3: When to clip your dots
    By "clip your dots", I mean 'refreshing the dots before the timer runs out'. The right time to do it is when your DoTs are about to go below 12 seconds, and when (in 6-7 seconds):
    The monster is about to "jump", for example: Titan. After doing the fight countless times, you will notice the exact times that he will jump – depends on group DPS, but you will know the HP % by then.
    You know that you might be "frozen", for example: (i) Twintania Conflagrations, and (ii) Titan Gaols.

    Extra Lesson: Festers and Bane and Pet
    Please, for the love of Eorzea, never use Energy Drain over Fester in any circumstance. You might run out of MP, but that's why Aetherflow gives you MP back. The only time you can use Energy Drain is when Fester is down, and you wanted to Ruin II + Energy Drain combo a monster to get the killing blow.

    Bane:
    The function of this skill is self-explanatory, but the right time to use it is tricky. Whenever you want to Bane, make sure that the DoTs are Contagioned. Best times to use Bane:

    Twintania:
    Use on the Drake Adds right after you put all 3 DoTs with Raging strikes buff up, and use it again on a contagioned Number 2 Drake Add to reapply the DoTs.
    Use on Conflagrations (manage aetherflow stack well here), Snakes, and Dreadknights (but reapply Miasma to slow it).
    Ifrit EX:
    Use on the nails that spawn right next to Ifrit.
    Last nail phase: Use on the nails that are next to each other.
    Titan EX Speedkill:
    Use on gaols that the BLM is unable to do Double-Flare with.
    Garuda EX:
    Never Bane the Spiny Plume.
    Use Bane when Garuda and a sister are right next to each other.

    Which Pet to use and how to micromanage it:
    Garuda-egi all the way, and Contagion + Miasma II every minute.
    Make a macro with ALL your skills to add:
    /pac "Wind Blade" <t>
    Have your "Obey" skill on an easily-accessed button. I have mine on "F".
    Position Garuda-egi where there is less chance that she will get knocked back.
    In some cases like Ifrit AOE Pushback and Titan Landslide, you will have to manual move Garuda back in range for DPS. Otherwise, it will only sit there idling. The easy fix for this is to spam your "Obey" skill on the monster as it will go into range by itself.
    Whenever you want to Enkindle or Contagion, make sure that Garuda-egi is on "obey" on the monster you want to use the skill on.

    Credits goes to Artemis

    source http://shinra.guildwork.com/forum/th...ow-to-summoner
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    xxalucard's Avatar
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    Nurse Joy
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    Goblin
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by AldoVonAlexandros View Post
    stuff
    A lot of what you said is not optimal. For example, in the opening rotation you should be using your pet buffs first + enkindle as you run to the boss before raging strikes (this way you are already "CLOSE" for auto attacks and miasma 2 in advance).

    You should never cast miasma first, there is no reason to. Even with dreadnights you can simply bane your dots from twintania onto it, which is what a "pro" summoner should be doing in the first place (assuming the tank knows where to be).


    Clipping dots that have 6-7 seconds left is terrible, and wastes MP. It also results in less DPS overall. If you are going to "clip" your dots, you should be timing it so that you clip exactly as the timer on it runs out (goes from 1 to nothing, before the dot disappears). This is because your dots get a final tic as the timer disappears.


    You seem to have a grasp on playing summoner, but I don't think you're ready to give lessons yet.
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    Amy Mizuno
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    Lamia
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by xxalucard View Post
    You should never cast miasma first, there is no reason to. Even with dreadnights you can simply bane your dots from twintania onto it, which is what a "pro" summoner should be doing in the first place (assuming the tank knows where to be).
    The heavy effect of Miasma does not apply off a bane, it only apply the dot as heavy is an additional effect of Miasma. In Twintania, you are correct in baning your dots over, but even then, you need to apply miasma AGAIN in order for the heavy to apply, then get garuda onto it and dps it down
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    Adeline Shimizu
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 80

    Decipher My SMN Guide

    I made a guide for smn dps- for lawlz (its mildly inappropriate)

    Singe Target: http://24.media.tumblr.com/f7138cb19...o9so1_1280.png

    Aoe DPS: http://24.media.tumblr.com/80f0fbfe7...o9so2_1280.png

    plz don't ban me se!!!
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    I'zizi Pi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adeline View Post
    I made a guide for smn dps- for lawlz (its mildly inappropriate)

    Singe Target: http://24.media.tumblr.com/f7138cb19...o9so1_1280.png

    Aoe DPS: http://24.media.tumblr.com/80f0fbfe7...o9so2_1280.png

    plz don't ban me se!!!
    Leet aoe dps strategy: put down normal cast Shadow Flare...wait until the tank moves the mobs out of it a few seconds later then swiftcast shadowflare.
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    Player Adeline's Avatar
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    Adeline Shimizu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirinichibon View Post
    Leet aoe dps strategy: put down normal cast Shadow Flare...wait until the tank moves the mobs out of it a few seconds later then swiftcast shadowflare.
    o right, those gais
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    Erupi Eternalis
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Adeline View Post
    I made a guide for smn dps- for lawlz (its mildly inappropriate)

    Singe Target: http://24.media.tumblr.com/f7138cb19...o9so1_1280.png

    Aoe DPS: http://24.media.tumblr.com/80f0fbfe7...o9so2_1280.png

    plz don't ban me se!!!
    Best guide evaaaar!
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