Wishing for Dark Knight

[Reynhart]

Why not... start a new class? Call it Ravager, make it two-hand swords, and go from there?

Because only one class offers two jobs. We can explore a lot of new mechanics by doing the same to all the existing classes before creating new ones, unless they are really different.
Dark Knight was frequently a Sword/Shield job, I don't think it's necessary to create a class for it.

I believe Dark Knight would branch from a new class that uses a Greatsword or Scythe or go back to the traditional sword and branch from Gladiator; and Dark Knight would be a tank not dps.

I think it's not very useful to give GLA a second tank job. If you wanna tank with a sword and shield, just go for PLD.
A third tank would be far more interesting coming from a class that isn't a tank.

And if something is pretty much standard in the whole FF history, it's that Dark Knight is a damage dealer, whatever weapon you give to him.

Yoshi P said he wanted to make playing a Dark Knight and a Paladin at the same time impossible.

Actually, I'd love to see that, cause I think this game really lacks important choices when building your character. It would be interesting, lorewise, that you have to reject your Paladin duty to be a Dark Knight.
Problem is, all the time spent collecting stuff for your PLD would be for naught, and the backlash would be terrible.

[Caselia]

Because only one class offers two jobs. We can explore a lot of new mechanics by doing the same to all the existing class before creating new ones, unless they are really different. Dark Knight was frequently a Sword/Shield job, I don't think it's necessary to create a class for it.


I think it's not very useful to give it a second tank job. If you wanna tank with a sword and shield, just go for PLD.
A third tank would be far more interesting coming from a class that isn't a tank.

And of something is pretty much standard in the whole FF history, it's that Dark Knight is a damage dealer, whatever weapon you give to him.

Tradition died when Yoshida gave Bard a bow and it came from Archer. I can see Dark Knight being a tank or hybrid of tank/dps. Seems pointless to me to make it pure dps, as we can see from the recent Arcanist Yoshida is aiming to make new classes/jobs hybrid.

[SharpD]

Tradition died when Yoshida gave Bard a bow and it came from Archer. I can see Dark Knight being a tank or hybrid of tank/dps. Seems pointless to me to make it pure dps, as we can see from the recent Arcanist Yoshida is aiming to make new classes/jobs hybrid.

Yeah, still wishing for RNG (Was my main in FFXI)

[Reynhart]

Tradition died when Yoshida gave Bard a bow and it came from Archer. I can see Dark Knight being a tank or hybrid of tank/dps. Seems pointless to me to make it pure dps, as we can see from the recent Arcanist Yoshida is aiming to make new classes/jobs hybrid.

Actually, archer is not that illogical for Bard. In early Final Fantasy, appart from buffing (Which our bard does pretty wel), Bards were know for being able to dish out damage from the back row. It's pretty much the closest thing you have to ranged damage. And by the way, doing ranged damage with a bow if far less silly than doing it with an instrument.

As for the hybrid part, you can say that for classes, indeed. But jobs are not hybrid. Scholar is a healer and Summoner is a DPS.

[LineageRazor]

Actually, archer is not that illogical for Bard. In early Final Fantasy, appart from buffing (Which our bard does pretty wel), Bards were know for being able to dish out damage from the back row. It's pretty much the closest thing you have to ranged damage. And by the way, doing ranged damage with a bow if far less silly than doing it with an instrument.

In addition to this, Final Fantasy IV's Edward (the guy most FF fans think about when "Final Fantasy" and "Bard" are mentioned in the same breath) could use bows - and since his harps did pretty poor damage, you'd usually hook him up with one unless you specifically needed the status debuffs using a harp provided. So, Edward the Bard spent a lot of his time shooting arrows. It's not that much of stretch for Archer and Bard to be related in FFXIV.

As for Dark Knight, from the same game Cecil was a sword-and-shield wielder as a Dark Knight, so it would not surprise me at all to see DRK evolve from GLD. That said, it's true that a tanking role doesn't suit DRK, so it'd be tough to justify all of the tanking-specific abilities GLD brings to the table...