Crafting 100% Success 100% HQ 2 Star Items

[Maelwys]

Try this one and save your headache from over melding. Save Materias for 2.2 patch.
I posted in a while back.. HERE

That's a good rotation, and it can dodge poor conditions almost anywhere and still hit 100%. But you could improve it slightly by removing the first "Careful Synthesis II" from Step #3, and using it instead if you get an Excellent condition after "Waste Not" (if not, you can just throw it in at very end of the rotation in order to complete the synth). The only downsides to that rotation are that since you can only get a maximum of 354 CP without Food, you'll always need to use +CP food with it... and you'll need a 50 Blacksmith for Ingenuity II (unless you have ~357 Craftsmanship, in which case you could swap Ingenuity II for Ingenuity and save yourself 8 CP).

I should probably note though, that if someone does have a level 50 Blacksmith and they're willing to use +CP food, but want to use as few materia melds as possible; then they could just substitute 'Ingenuity II' in for 'Ingenuity' in this rotation instead. That rotation should be 100% with your gear; but it will only use 356 CP instead of 365 CP (so even less melds needed!!)

You certainly raise a good point though - I'm looking forward to seeing what the new patch brings

[Ooshima]

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Thanks for those detailed info, pretty interesting since I'm not very good at theorycrafting

If you want to refine that rotation further: Adding Innovation doesn't use up any Durability because it isn't a Touch or Synthesis action but a buff. You can drop Innovation and swap the single Standard Touch for two "Basic Touches" for a better return (though you'll need to swap Steady Hand to Steady Hand II to get them up to 100% hit chance)

Thanks for pointing that out - slight confusion on my side, I've mentioned about the extra 10 durability being put to use because I initially resolved that with 2x Standard Touch (after the 5x Basic Touch) to raise Inner Quiet stacks before I found out that I could cut my CP cost with Innovation (although I have way more than enough CP at 400+ range with Comfort Zone and CP food) towards the end and save that 10 durability and CP for any rouge RNGs.

Your suggestion of swapping Standard Touch for 2x Basic Touch for even higher Inner Quiet stack seems like a great idea to, thanks for highlighting!


EDIT:

BTW just to let you know since you've mentioned:

Recipe level 55, Difficulty = 233, Maximum Quality = 2921

Comfort Zone
Inner Quiet
Steady Hand II
Basic Touch (118)
Basic Touch (137)
Basic Touch (157)
Basic Touch (176)
Basic Touch (196)
Manipulation
Steady Hand
Standard Touch (270)
Great Strides
Innovation
Ingenuity
Byrgeot's Blessing (1694)
Careful Synthesis II x 3
= 2748 Quality for 359 CP

I make that 2748 with 340 Control...?

It worked for me because I am with 356 Control instead of the minimum 340

[Rinaku]

what is the setup for non star 40 durabilty to make hq stuff? I find it hard to make electrum ingot to hq so far i got a lvl 50 weaver/leather/gsm lvl 15 alchemy and it hink 25 blacksmith/15 armorsmith/lvl 37 carp

currently working on carp


any tips on making non star 40 to hq?

[Maelwys]

what is the setup for non star 40 durabilty to make hq stuff? I find it hard to make electrum ingot to hq so far i got a lvl 50 weaver/leather/gsm lvl 15 alchemy and it hink 25 blacksmith/15 armorsmith/lvl 37 carp

currently working on carp

any tips on making non star 40 to hq?

I'm assuming you're trying to HQ 40 durability stuff to sell for profit rather than for personal use?

You really need to get that Carpenter up to 50 and Culinarian to 37... but after that it shouldn't really be too hard to HQ stuff: Just use Inner Quiet, then Basic Touch (or Hasty Touch) about 5-6 times under Steady Hand II (exact number needed depending on your control and the recipe level) followed by a Great Strides + Byregots at the end... and then complete the synth with 2 Careful Synth IIs.

My rotation for Easier 40-durability synths is usually something like Inner Quiet + Waste Not + Steady Hand II + Basic Touch x4 + Manipulation + Steady Hand II + Basic Touch x2 + Great Strides + Byregot's Blessing + Careful Synthesis x2

That needs exactly 376 CP; and I can usually get a ToT off midway through without affecting the outcome (or as a last resort use a Hasty Touch instead of a Basic at the end) so often I don't bother with food.

For Harder 40-durability synths I tend to fall back on Hasty Touches and Tricks of the Trade; but the general idea is to start off with Inner Quiet first; then Waste Not + Steady Hand II + 3 Hasty Touches; then continue to use Hasty Touch under Steady Hand II - popping Manipulation whenever you hit 15 durability (repeat this twice); then finish up with Steady Hand + Great Strides + Byregot's Blessing + Careful Synthesis II x2... with bonus points for fitting in an extra Touch action and/or Ingenuity or Innovation at the end before BB... and extra bonus points for swapping Hasty Touches to Basic Touches if you have surplus CP.

Note that for the 1-star or 2-star synths, I need to make sure that Byregot's Blessing and at least one of the Careful Synthesis IIs are completed under Ingenuity due to the level differences. Usually if I get a few Tricks of the Trades off I'll be able to complete that synth with a full quality bar.

Right now without Byregot's Blessing and Steady Hand II, the best you can do is probably just use Inner Quiet + a lot of "Steady Hand"/"Hasty Touch" spam; popping Trick of the Trade as often as possible and Manipulation when needed; then Rumination at the end whenever you're completely out of CP and only have 25 durability left (in order to gain as much CP as possible to buff your last Touch action up or use Manipulation again; before using Careful Synthesis II twice to complete the synth)...

[gryfton]

Is it possible to craft 2 star HQ without having weaving or alchemy to lv50?

[Simaril]

I'm confident you can 0 rng 100% quality 2 star without weaver and alc if you're using HQ materials. Making HQ from NQ 100% will probably be a challange...

-Making darksteel nugget from NQ materials you probably can't do it 100% of the time without alc/wvr without the very best stats -so you'll end up with some NQs.
-Making darksteel ingots from HQ materials you most definitely can't 100% quality every time... but you should have pretty high quality and a decent chance.

You can probably make darksteel gear 100% quality with 0 rng wihtout alc/wvr if you do have HQ darksteel ingots etc.

[Estellios]

Is it possible to craft 2 star HQ without having weaving or alchemy to lv50?

It's definitely possible with NQ mats, but you will probably need to eat CP food and you will get RNG-screwed if Hasty touch decides to be a jerk. Also full/near-fully melded gear and an artisan tool will probably be necessary. Like Simaril said, you probably won't get 100% quality every time but you can get up to maybe 80%+ consistently.

[gryfton]

thanks for the input. im just having a heck of a time with the darksteel wire. I can get the hq to 100% easy with HQ nuggets, but the progress only to about 30-40%

[AttacKat]

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[Elazu]

Is this guide still viable? Even for the tokens you need for the mastercraft book, new weapons and glasses?