Marriage Quest finally on the horizon! Yay!

[Mcshiggs]

I doubt anyone would tolerate slavery in this game.

You mean like a system where you would pay real money to for NPCs that become "yours" that go out and do stuff for you that has become known as "farming?"

[Arkghyom]

This thread is still up?

[ApolloGenX]

You mean like a system where you would pay real money to for NPCs that become "yours" that go out and do stuff for you that has become known as "farming?"

You mean hiring retainers? You can hire retainers.... that's hiring someone.

To the above- I don't mean to go left field. It's just annoying. It's a product marketed to an international audience - not "For Asians, By Asians"... so, I as a customer find that they choose to put something completely unnecessary into the game and make a cultural point about it being a certain way. This way happens to be a very offensive way to a certain group of people.

There is zero reason for this.

[Lucke]

You mean like a system where you would pay real money to for NPCs that become "yours" that go out and do stuff for you that has become known as "farming?"

Retainers aren't slaves. You pay them ventures to be your personal assistant.

[LoLo]

You mean hiring retainers? You can hire retainers.... that's hiring someone.

To the above- I don't mean to go left field. It's just annoying. It's a product marketed to an international audience - not "For Asians, By Asians"... so, I as a customer find that they choose to put something completely unnecessary into the game and make a cultural point about it being a certain way. This way happens to be a very offensive way to a certain group of people.

There is zero reason for this.

Ok, it's just that you scared me off with that last comment and I felt you are taking this too serious.

Btw, it isn't marketed to a international audience, it is sold to a international market and has heavy references to a Japanese role playing game that caters to Japanese players that have oversea fans.

[Roserei]

Whether or not same-sex marriage is implemented, some people will be unhappy. However, if it is implemented, then the people who don't like it have a simple solution.

1. Don't agree to a same-sex marriage with anyone.
2. Don't attend anyone else's same-sex marriage.

And voila! Now you have virtually no exposure to it, and can easily pretend it doesn't exist. However, if it isn't implemented, then what will the people who wanted it be able to do?

1. Make a new character of a different gender. Good luck if you're on a highly popular sever like Balmung. Even more good luck if you have a basic account subscription, and are only allowed one character per server.
2. Use a Fantasia to switch your existing character's gender. Now your name may not fit, or you may not like how your character looks anymore. You might end up wanting to change back, using up another Fantasia (if you have one), but maybe that will invalidate your marriage - so what do you choose?
3. Quit and go play another game.

None of those 'solutions' are as straightforward, and I think it's unfair to restrict content like that. LGB people pay to play this game, the same as straight people do, so Square Enix should treat them equally, on the basis of customer service even if they don't care about the human rights side of things.

[ApolloGenX]

I think it would be better if they made your devotion to a deity more relevant before tackling something like this.

[JillyBean]

Oh wow. Well, I started this topic around 24 hours ago. I guess I should have known the possible risk of it becoming another huge debate thread over marriage, etc. I haven't been able to read all 18 pages...(woah!?)... but I get the impression in skimming it seems that things are much more civil than they have been in the past. Meaning for the most part - reasonable, non-flame-war chat. So that's a good thing ^^

I don't want to debate the subject. I do think the marriage quest should be available to everyone (in real life and in game life). But that's not why I made the topic. Personally, I was just excited that this fun aspect to the game (for me) will find its way to us soon enough. I don't even consider myself an RP'er at all!

[Gilraen]

I think it would be better if they made your devotion to a deity more relevant before tackling something like this.

What? You do know the dominant religion of Japan is Shintoism, followed closely by Buddhism and Confucianism. Christianity is a distant minority that used mainly as a source of unofficial holidays (like Christmas), and it's Christianity that has issues with same-sex marriage. The Japanese have problems with same-sex marriage for completely different reasons that literally are alien to the Christian mindset.

[ApolloGenX]

What? You do know the dominant religion of Japan is Shintoism, followed closely by Buddhism and Confucianism. Christianity is a distant minority that used mainly as a source of unofficial holidays (like Christmas), and it's Christianity that has issues with same-sex marriage. The Japanese have problems with same-sex marriage for completely different reasons that literally are alien to the Christian mindset.

No... I mean like worshipping Nophica, etc. I think they should make your in-game deity selection more meaningful before something like this....