Marriage Quest finally on the horizon! Yay!

[Lunavi]

Do you not see the irony? now you are bringing in our real world thinking into this game ignorant of how Eorzea may have passed this way of thinking. It's amusing to say the least that you keep over looking this point.

Wherein lies the irony? All I say is that discrimination is discrimination. Who am I discriminating by questioning a discriminating system? Sure, ignorant you might call me, maybe I am. But I find it that this would be an unnecessairy limitation that would cause more harm than good.

[JeniLinsky]

(I've left the T off because I'm not sure how this one affects them as much, but I'm more than open to an explanation on that one)

T often gets lumped in with L/G because a straight woman who happens to have been born with a male body, but who still falls in love with male people, is popularly perceived as gay; a straight man who happens to have been born with a female body, who falls in love with female type people is often seen as lesbian.

Unfortunately, it's also true that a gay woman who was born with a male body is often seen as taking the long road home.

In short, LGB is about who one falls in love with; T is about who one is. They are only tangentially related.

[Arkghyom]

Second Life Reborn!

[Nahaara]

*le sigh*

LGBT telling SE how to design their own game.

again.

japan is a land with priority on classical family values.
don't like it?
play a western MMO.

If that's the case then SE should have released FFXIV in Japan and only in Japan.

[Phe]

If that's the case then SE should have released FFXIV in Japan and only in Japan.

you know there are quite some good JRPGs out there also in NA even without gay content.

[Grizzlebeard]

That was my whole point. American's thinking that their political views should be pandered to because they can't see past their bubble.

Ah, sorry. I'm with you now.

[Demetirus]

T often gets lumped in with L/G because a straight woman who happens to have been born with a male body, but who still falls in love with male people, is popularly perceived as gay; a straight man who happens to have been born with a female body, who falls in love with female type people is often seen as lesbian.

Unfortunately, it's also true that a gay woman who was born with a male body is often seen as taking the long road home.

In short, LGB is about who one falls in love with; T is about who one is. They are only tangentially related.

Ah, I guess I've never seen my T friends get classified as being L/G just for being T, even before transitions etc. That's likely where my confusion stems from. This is a whole new level of confusing for me, but thanks so much for the input!

[Grizzlebeard]

you know there are quite some good JRPGs out there also in NA even without gay content.

I can't think of a single MMO I've played that has anything remotely approaching non-hetero content or even references to homosexuality. Offline RPGs are a different matter entirely but most of them represent gay male characters as comedic and overly effeminate while lesbians are lascivious jerk material. Producers of both genres clearly find it easier, and more profitable, going with the mob mood. If the majority of the playerbase both in-game and out called for this and showed support via their wallets I'm sure you'd see a sudden relaxing of their stance.

[LineageRazor]

I can't think of a single MMO I've played that has anything remotely approaching non-hetero content or even references to homosexuality. Offline RPGs are a different matter entirely but most of them represent gay male characters as comedic and overly effeminate while lesbians are lascivious jerk material. Producers of both genres clearly find it easier, and more profitable, going with the mob mood. If the majority of the playerbase both in-game and out called for this and showed support via their wallets I'm sure you'd see a sudden relaxing of their stance.

Actually, if you want a reference to homosexuality (or possibly bisexuality), I can think of one instance in FFXIV where it's pretty blatant... There's a quest at the Forgotten Springs where a Miqo'te is bathing and she asks you to chase off the creepy stalkers that are ogling her. Once you do, she admits that if it was YOU doing the ogling, she wouldn't necessarily mind as her tastes do run that way - which, if you're playing a female character, is a pretty clear message.

In FFXI, too, the Wings of the Goddess expansion introduced the first male Mithra of the game, Lehko Habhoka - a shameless flirt who comes on to the player character pretty strongly regardless of what gender he or she is.

To be fair, in both these cases it's not so much deliberately introducing a homosexual character as it is not adjusting their dialog based on the gender of the player character, but if SE was truly harboring an anti-gay agenda they could have easily varied their dialogs.

[odintius]

Well as long they also add a divorce quest where afterwards you lose half of what you own to your significant other got to keep it real.